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How to Join the Secret Society and Benefits of Doing So!
The Secret Society in The Sims 4!
In Discover University, we know there exists a secret organization that meets near Pepper's Pub in a clearing across the bridge. We saw this in the trailer. There seemed to be a magical influence, given the blessings these members were supposed to get. Let's learn how you can join them, but saving the secrets for later when I'm less tired.
How to Meet Them
You don't have to do this, but heading to the clearing in the area marked in the map above, you will sometimes see members in robes doing something, and they'll scatter when you arrive. They lie to you about what they're doing, and that makes me even more curious.
How to Join the Secret Society
Make an Offer for Academic Success at your University's Statue
Despite them being super-secret, it's entirely possible to join this society. Make a high-quality offering at your University's main statue, the one in the field where people meet for events. You have a few options when making an offering for academic success:
Desserts: Baked goods are very much desired and will give you a Focused buff, whether they work or not. They need to be of excellent quality. This may be possible to do with a few levels in cooking.
Rare Cyrstals or Metals - this is the most reliable option, but you have to find one first.
Pristine Gardening Harvestables
Once You've Made an Offering
Joining the Secret Society is easy once you know what to do!
If your offering was good enough, the Secret Society will come to visit you that night, and offer you to join the Secret Organization. They will let you right in, and now they appear on your organizations panel with a schedule and tasks you can perform to rank up.
Rank Up Rewards
The Secret Society's Robes in The Sims 4 Discover University.
Completing tasks for the Order of Enchantment will gradually increase your rank, as will attending events and being friendly with the others. When you fill the meter, you get the following rewards:
Secret Society Rank 1: Your Sim should be sure to Make Offerings, Tend to the Sprites' Garden, and participate in events. Rank 1 Order Robes, Order Masks
Rank 2: Rank 2 Order Robes. Ability to perform Sprite Attacks on others.
Rank 3: Rank 3 Order Robes. Ability to Summon powerful Sprites on yourself.
Research and Debate
The Order of Enchantment tends to the Sprites in Britechester
When you're in the Secret Organization, you can use the Research Machine to learn about the Secret Society's origins.
Here is the text in case you'd like to read about them:
The End of an Era In The Order of Enchantment's second year, their founder Esther Mudget was speaking at a charity auction about the importance of using all-natural ingredients for baking.
Why she chose that discussion topic in the first place for this particular event is a separate mystery.
Midway through this infamous speech, Ms. Mudget abruptly and dramatically ran off into the woods, leaving the auction-goers baffled.
It was later revealed internally among the Society that she had overused and betrayed the Sprites, seemingly ignoring their pleas for entertainment and starving them of the sugar they so craved. And all the while had been reaping the academic and social benefits they had bestowed on her. It was her greed and ignorance that ultimately led to her tragic downfall. As legend has it, she is still out there, forever lost, chasing after errant darts of light, hair in a tangled mess. No combs in sight.
Esther Mudget's fate serves as a reminder to revere and respect the Sprites lest you incur their wrath.
The Order's Origin The Sprites on which the Origin of Enchantment's existence is based had been virtually undiscovered by humans until the turn of the century. A chance encounter with an energetic young scientist by the name of Esther Mudget changed the face of history forever.
Esther had been studying the pollination patterns of wild mushrooms and her research brought her to Gibbs Hill. This is where she encountered the most fascinating spiral configuration of fungi behind the castle ruins. Intrigued, she began to spend increasingly more of her time there to study.
One afternoon, thanks to her polite new neighbors, she brought a slice of fresh fruitcake to the mushroom site. She set the cake on nearby rock while she went about her work. Before long, she started to hear a peculiar whistling sound. She knew this sound was not human, so her instincts told her to crack a corny joke in hopes of diffusing a bad situation.
Apparently the Sprites liked her joke. And they really liked her fruitcake.
The disarmed Sprites came out of hiding and allowed Esther to see them in their true twinkly form. They whispered wisecracks and the mysteries of the universe in her ears. Little did she know this would be the start of a tender, though ill-fated relationship."
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I got into the secret society, and I wish I hadn't. All it does is focus on making these sprites happy. Once you're in, you keep getting visited by them, and you have to do stuff to amuse them. There does not seem to be any upside to any of this. So, don't bother!
There is an upside. The focused moodlet your sim can get gives a 30% boost to performance and skill gains which is the best boost in the game at this point. This 30% boost is a great help if you want to get a perfect A+ Distinguished Degree with honors
I was never able to spam enough interactions quickly enough, so they always got bored and turned yellow, which makes you tense. Best I could ever do was just get them to go away. Now I'm out of school and they still keep showing up!
Really? All you have to do is queue up 6 or 7 jokes or mischief interactions. Or a mixture of both, then do it again and then just go about your normal game play. When the "fine" moodlet goes the sprites will gift you one of their special moodlets. It's not too difficult I think.
Here's the cheat for fixing the sprites visits after leaving the Organization bug: enable testingcheats on followed by
You don't need a focused moodlet of 30 % to succeed with a Distinguished Degree. My sim has 8 x A+ so far and she's almost breezing through the stuff. You only need high level skills. I have her taking notes in class, doing homework and then studying another 2 hours for every course she's in and that still leaves her with enough time to focus on personal needs.
She wrote an outstanding term paper even before attending one of the courses for the fist time. Cuz she's lvl 10 in logic (studying biology) and gardening and a lvl 9 in fitness. And that makes the difference, not the moodlet. :D
You surely do not need the moodlet if you are using skills instead, but the 30% boost regardless is a first for the game in terms of percentage boosts and as such is an interesting features for min-maxers. If the sprites visitations weren't bugged then this would actually be a pretty neat small feature. It would be nice to see more of these kinds of features throughout the game as it adds variety and different game-play paths through the same content.
I've played an 8 sim household all new sims from CAS and all completed uni with honors so even high levels in skills aren't needed. All a sim needs to do is complete homework, go to class, hand in the presentation or course paper and then study then a degree is granted.
I agree that it's terrible. The bonuses only last while you're at university so the rest of your life you have sprites appearing when you're at work or asleep so can't/ don't want to deal with them, or when you're working on a skill related to a different mood and they spoil it.
When they arrive they make you Fine (+3 I think) then if you're successful they make you flirty. Both of which are useless if you're working on focused or inspired related skills for example. I bought Carefree so I could ignore them without getting stressed but the fine was still an inconvenience.
Sprites being there after leaving university is a known bug. Sprites Bug Report Follow the link for the workaround to fix issue until developers patch it. Or read my reply above for the cheat.
After you graduate, you still get the sprite visit. I tried rejoining but no one came to my dorm and when I found them at their gathering spot, my sim changed into the society's robe but I can't make offerings or ask them to join.
I'm still seeing this same issue today. The tasks she completed weren't counting towards her org status and so I left and tried to re-join and I've made the offering(rare metal) 3 times and made sure I was home around 10:30 PM so as not to miss their middle-of-the-night visit, but they still didn't come. I bought the game less than a a month ago so it seems like the issue is still there. Any advice?
If you follow the links in my reply directly above your comment you can see the directions for the work-around to the bug. The devs haven't fixed this as far as I know.
I keep making offerings to the statue and the Secret Society members keep showing up but never invite me to join any advice? I'm offering all kinds of awesome things like Rare stones, Perfect fruit and Ambrosia even and every night they come to visit me but never invite me?
It could be a few things, if some other sim (in your current sims household) has been invited into the secret society it doesn't work for other sims sometimes from the same household. Or if you tried to get invited but then directed your player to chat or do some action that cancelled the NPC's auto invite then it will fail subsequent times.
Try this cheat: traits.remove_trait trait_Organizations_SecretSociety_JoinVisit_Marked
or this one if the above cheat didn't fix the issue:
Has your Sim re-enrolled to uni? If they have this causes them to be unable to join the Secret Society again. Without more detail it's difficult to offer suggestions. The cheats in my post do work as I can join the society in my games that I tested last night.
It may be a mod you might be using that is somehow causing issues. Have a read through the Bug Forums for Discover University and see if you can find anything there. Society Bug Reports
Do the rank 2 and 3 robes look different? Because I'm now a senior member and there are only still 3 similar colour combinations to pick from and I can't find any other types of robe in CAS. I thought based on the masks there would be more?
I've managed to join after the first term only, getting A+'s and gifting normal hamburger cake twice. If you are spell caster after that it's easy, just duplicate a gem a lot and conjure up perfect grilled cheese and donate at the gatherings. The fairies will grant you a full food and sleep bar and you can pull an all nighter.
The focused moodlet is the 'power' your sim can get and gives a 30% boost to performance and skill gains. As for cheats, you can just cheat a focused buff onto your Sim if you wanted to use cheats.
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Comments (12)
I got into the secret society, and I wish I hadn't. All it does is focus on making these sprites happy. Once you're in, you keep getting visited by them, and you have to do stuff to amuse them. There does not seem to be any upside to any of this. So, don't bother!
There is an upside. The focused moodlet your sim can get gives a 30% boost to performance and skill gains which is the best boost in the game at this point. This 30% boost is a great help if you want to get a perfect A+ Distinguished Degree with honors
I was never able to spam enough interactions quickly enough, so they always got bored and turned yellow, which makes you tense. Best I could ever do was just get them to go away. Now I'm out of school and they still keep showing up!
Really? All you have to do is queue up 6 or 7 jokes or mischief interactions. Or a mixture of both, then do it again and then just go about your normal game play. When the "fine" moodlet goes the sprites will gift you one of their special moodlets. It's not too difficult I think.
Here's the cheat for fixing the sprites visits after leaving the Organization bug: enable testingcheats on followed by
traits.remove_trait trait_CollegeOrganization_SecretSociety_Member
You don't need a focused moodlet of 30 % to succeed with a Distinguished Degree. My sim has 8 x A+ so far and she's almost breezing through the stuff. You only need high level skills. I have her taking notes in class, doing homework and then studying another 2 hours for every course she's in and that still leaves her with enough time to focus on personal needs.
She wrote an outstanding term paper even before attending one of the courses for the fist time. Cuz she's lvl 10 in logic (studying biology) and gardening and a lvl 9 in fitness. And that makes the difference, not the moodlet. :D
You surely do not need the moodlet if you are using skills instead, but the 30% boost regardless is a first for the game in terms of percentage boosts and as such is an interesting features for min-maxers. If the sprites visitations weren't bugged then this would actually be a pretty neat small feature. It would be nice to see more of these kinds of features throughout the game as it adds variety and different game-play paths through the same content.
I've played an 8 sim household all new sims from CAS and all completed uni with honors so even high levels in skills aren't needed. All a sim needs to do is complete homework, go to class, hand in the presentation or course paper and then study then a degree is granted.
I agree that it's terrible. The bonuses only last while you're at university so the rest of your life you have sprites appearing when you're at work or asleep so can't/ don't want to deal with them, or when you're working on a skill related to a different mood and they spoil it.
When they arrive they make you Fine (+3 I think) then if you're successful they make you flirty. Both of which are useless if you're working on focused or inspired related skills for example. I bought Carefree so I could ignore them without getting stressed but the fine was still an inconvenience.
Sprites being there after leaving university is a known bug. Sprites Bug Report Follow the link for the workaround to fix issue until developers patch it. Or read my reply above for the cheat.
After you graduate, you still get the sprite visit. I tried rejoining but no one came to my dorm and when I found them at their gathering spot, my sim changed into the society's robe but I can't make offerings or ask them to join.
It's a known bug that was fixed ina recent patch so make sure your game has been updated.
Here's the cheat for fixing the sprites visits bug anyway: enable testingcheats on followed by
traits.remove_trait trait_CollegeOrganization_SecretSociety_Member
I'm still seeing this same issue today. The tasks she completed weren't counting towards her org status and so I left and tried to re-join and I've made the offering(rare metal) 3 times and made sure I was home around 10:30 PM so as not to miss their middle-of-the-night visit, but they still didn't come. I bought the game less than a a month ago so it seems like the issue is still there. Any advice?
If you follow the links in my reply directly above your comment you can see the directions for the work-around to the bug. The devs haven't fixed this as far as I know.
I keep making offerings to the statue and the Secret Society members keep showing up but never invite me to join any advice? I'm offering all kinds of awesome things like Rare stones, Perfect fruit and Ambrosia even and every night they come to visit me but never invite me?
It could be a few things, if some other sim (in your current sims household) has been invited into the secret society it doesn't work for other sims sometimes from the same household. Or if you tried to get invited but then directed your player to chat or do some action that cancelled the NPC's auto invite then it will fail subsequent times.
Try this cheat: traits.remove_trait trait_Organizations_SecretSociety_JoinVisit_Marked
or this one if the above cheat didn't fix the issue:
traits.remove_trait trait_CollegeOrganization_SecretSociety_Member
I am having the same issue. They appear almost every night at my house and I cannot interact with them in any way. Just tried those commands!
Has your Sim re-enrolled to uni? If they have this causes them to be unable to join the Secret Society again. Without more detail it's difficult to offer suggestions. The cheats in my post do work as I can join the society in my games that I tested last night.
It may be a mod you might be using that is somehow causing issues. Have a read through the Bug Forums for Discover University and see if you can find anything there. Society Bug Reports
Do the rank 2 and 3 robes look different? Because I'm now a senior member and there are only still 3 similar colour combinations to pick from and I can't find any other types of robe in CAS. I thought based on the masks there would be more?
Robes stay the same as far as I can remember.
I've managed to join after the first term only, getting A+'s and gifting normal hamburger cake twice. If you are spell caster after that it's easy, just duplicate a gem a lot and conjure up perfect grilled cheese and donate at the gatherings. The fairies will grant you a full food and sleep bar and you can pull an all nighter.
How to join
Does this work if you live in a house?
When the Order visited my house to invite me, they unlocked all my doors!
So what "powers" does being in the Order give you? And are there cheats/mods to get the benefits without the annoying drawbacks?
The focused moodlet is the 'power' your sim can get and gives a 30% boost to performance and skill gains. As for cheats, you can just cheat a focused buff onto your Sim if you wanted to use cheats.
Thanks!
I want to join the group of secret society
Enjoy, all you have to do is follow the instructions on this guide. Specifically the information under the heading: How to Join the Secret Society.
History of secrets
I won't be secret society members ship joining