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Offline Summers

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I heard there is the other way to play the sims3 such as saw playing way from other horror video game. In general, I always try to live my sims the better life in my game so I've never imagined about the killing style with the sims3 but it was a shock to hear other players to kill the sims to release their mental stress.

One day, I've seen other simmer posted his(her) sims challenge and said it's good when you feel bored with the sims3. Make 8 sims household, and let them sit on the chair around the fireplace. Remove all the doors to get out. Fire in the house and keep watching who will be survived from the fire.


It was more shock to me teenagers were allowed to play like this. Sounds it's very cruel to me. :( Are there many teenage simmers like this around the world?
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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2012, 04:47:20 AM »
I guess people have their own play style, but personally, I have only forced Grim once since I have had sims3.  In sims2, I did it more, for one reason or another.  I would imagine that people have done that for their stories.  I don't think I would just go on a killing spree just for the heck of it.  I would suppose the old saying goes, to each their own. :)
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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2012, 04:48:40 AM »
I'll be honest and say that I do not find this as shocking as you seem to.  There are far too many horrible things really going on in the world for me to be concerned about what someone is doing in a video game.  Besides, there are video games where killing people is not really detrimental to game play, and is even encouraged after a fashion (the GTA franchise, the Elder Scrolls franchise).  This is not to even mention the games where the entire purpose of the game is to kill people (every warfare game you can think of).

I think a lot of the appeal of this comes from the fact that murder does not exist in the Sims' world:  Sims cannot consciously kill other Sims.  The only way to do this is to create a situation where death is likely to occur:  you have to create tragic accidents.  This is not as easy as it sounds, and often requires a bit of skill on behalf of the player.

I am not a Sim-killer and do not go out of my way to treat my Sims bad, although I do both when it suits my purposes.  The most recent example is a game I started to experiment with the practical functionality of certain traits and the ability of a teenager to survive using exclusively these traits.  The parameters were simple:  buy/build modes were strictly off limits, the gym was off limits, no part time jobs and she started out with $0 in the way of funds.  Since you cannot create and move a teenager into a lot, this required me to to not only create the teenager, but an adult guardian...which I killed the moment the family was placed.  I then used the "familyfunds" cheat to set the household funds at 0.

I tried this with an empty lot, and intended for the teen to sleep in parks, but it became immediately apparent that she got picked up after curfew and escorted "home" every time she was out.  This required me to rethink my plan, so I created the lot shown below to avoid this to some extent:




No bathroom, no kitchen, no bed, and no entertainment (the bills were $2 lol).  Just a bench to nap on so she wasn't constantly hounded by the police.  She had to fulfill all her needs using her carefully selected traits:  Neurotic, Inappropriate, Mooch and Friendly.  These traits allowed her to instantly remove stress, bathe in the sinks of public bathrooms, beg for food and money and made it easier for her to talk to people while doing it.  I also gave her the leeway to sleep and shower at a friend's house if she was invited over and managed to convince them to let her spend the night.

Was this cruel?  Maybe a little.  But she still survived quite well:  she became an adult with about 7,000 LTH points, she graduated on the honor role, had lots of friends and even a boyfriend.  She went hungry on occasion, but was never close to starving...and had even built up close to $200, despite the fact that she ate off the food truck several times a week.  She eventually grew up, got a job in the music industry (rock star branch), moved into an apartment and had 2 kids.  All's well that ends well.  ;)

Regardless, I won't fault someone for playing the game the way they want.  I would much rather see someone killing off pixelated people to relieve their stress than to go on a shooting spree in a grocery store where living, breathing people might be harmed.
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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 04:55:18 AM »
That is pretty cool Hosfac.  I have never done something like that, but looks interesting.  I do agree with you though.  For some reason, I just cannot bring myself to kill my sims, unless I do it for a reason.  I think another time I got rid of a couple of sims, is when the game had cloned one of my sims and there were three of them.  Another time it was for the purpose of freeing a spot and I had a glitch that the elder would not die.
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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2012, 05:08:13 AM »
I'm considering reviving the concept and maybe even writing a story about it.  It was actually a pretty fun game while it lasted.  She became good friends with the guy who worked at the consignment shop, because it was close to the park and he was always available to help her with her homework lol.  Plus, he always had $10 or a can of soup to spare.  :P

But it's a prime example of how some out of the box thinking can lead to some very interesting game play...even when you're not being very nice to your Sims.

Edit:  And by the way...don't mooch food off vampires unless you're a vampire too.  They give you plasma packs lol.
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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 05:49:51 AM »
I'll be honest and say that I do not find this as shocking as you seem to.  There are far too many horrible things really going on in the world for me to be concerned about what someone is doing in a video game.  Besides, there are video games where killing people is not really detrimental to game play, and is even encouraged after a fashion (the GTA franchise, the Elder Scrolls franchise).  This is not to even mention the games where the entire purpose of the game is to kill people (every warfare game you can think of).

I know next to nothing about games other than Sims 3.  Are these games you mentioned rated T for Teen?
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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 08:50:25 AM »
Summers, I feel sorry that you were distressed by this, but I think I'll have to agree with Hosfac on this one. As sophisticated as life simulations are, and as emotionally attached as I might get to my Simmies, the ultimate fact is that they still aren't human. They don't have the emotional depth of real humans, they aren't forever traumatised by tragedies, and death doesn't even have to be permanent for them. Killing them off for catharsis doesn't seem any more wrong to me than, say, blasting the heads off some zombies. It's not everyone's cup of tea for sure, but at the end of the day it's only a game.  :)

Also: To be honest, killing off your Sims was part of the game’s culture from the start. There’s something darkly amusing about watching a Sim autonomously taunt a carnivorous plant, run screaming into a house fire, or dive into a pool that clearly has no way out.



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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 10:18:17 AM »
I had actually started to wonder if EA was slowly started to "sanitize" the game when they were releasing patches. I hadn't had a Sim die, except for old age, in a very long time. I had Sims with no handiness skills repairing TVs, dishwashers with puddles and computers without incident. All they did was gain handiness levels.  I couldn't understand it because they do have goals like the Gold digger LTW. The other night I had two Sims die in an accidental fire and I was totally surprised. 

I'm not a pervy Sim  ;D killer but I do like unexpected things to happen and have some drama once in a while.

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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 10:23:41 AM »
Hosfac, I don't know if I read about this here or elsewhere, but somebody did the same sort of thing but with a female sim who had a baby.  She was also successful at keeping her sim alive and happy.

As for the death stuff, the only time I've been disturbed by it in the game was in Sims 2 when I witnessed the accidental death of a child in a fire.  The screams were very disturbing.  I have never repeated that.

I think part of the beauty of this game is that it allows us to vicariously live in ways we cannot or would not really live.  That includes the darker aspects of ourselves.  For me, no matter how I try, I can't seem to make unhappy sims, though I'll admit to trying.  I don't think I'd read a story as macabre as the one you described, but certainly asylum challenges, which result in a good deal of accidental death, are often hilarious.  You have to balance your emotional reaction with the fact that this is just a game.  I think it's good you have an emotional reaction because that's what stops that sort of thing from migrating to real life, but all on its own in a video game, it doesn't seem so bad, I guess.

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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 10:28:30 AM »
Summers, you mention that you are surprised that teens are allowed to play TS3 that way.  I suspect their parents are not aware of how the kids are playing and even if they were they wouldn't prevent it. 

Our culture is filled with horror and death.  For instance, The Hunger Games is tremendously popular among young people and from what I understand the premise is that teenagers are forced to fight to the death so that their families will be given food and riches.  Is it really any surprise then that some people would choose to experiment with killing off their sims?  It is, after all, just a game and there is no real harm done.  Better that these kids get their kicks from killing pixels rather than by causing real world havoc.

That being said, I personally don't intentionally harm my sims because to me this is a life simulation game, not a death simulation game.  When I want to get my aggression out I go kill monsters in World of Warcraft.

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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2012, 11:21:11 AM »
I agree with Katluvr on all of her points.  I will say though I have intentionally killed Sims before.  When I found out my husband wanted a divorce and he had been cheating on me, I made Sims of both him and the other woman and killed them every way I could think of.  I've also had a file where I was playing an evil family of Sims and I fully expect evil Sims to act evil.  Read Carl's guide on the Emperor of Evil and you'll see what I mean.
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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2012, 11:38:16 AM »
I know next to nothing about games other than Sims 3.  Are these games you mentioned rated T for Teen?

GTA is M rated, while Elder Scrolls are having different ratings, from 12 to M. (I'm actually loving GTA SA and still play it occasionally!)
About killing part - I did use "force age transition" couple of times, but not into that playing style. I did deleted few sims in moveobjects/buy mode, but mostly bugged NPC's. And I'm not surprised by the fact that teens are playing in this style.

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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 11:41:38 AM »
I know next to nothing about games other than Sims 3.  Are these games you mentioned rated T for Teen?

The Elder Scrolls games are Role Playing Games where you are a Medieval/Fantasy Style World and Character. Skyrim is the latest of them, if you've heard of that. Skyrim is a 15 in England, I don't know about other countries. As for GTA - That is Grand Theft Auto which is an 18 or a 15 at least. One of those - you can do whatever you want as long as the cops don't get you games. Very common for Play Station I think it was.

I don't find it disturbing about people doing this, although I feel that this current rise in popularity of death is down to games such as Call of Duty where people literally go around School talking about how they killed an enemy soldier last night. People have a strange fascination with Death because it's the one thing we will never know about. I can't go much further than - nobody has ever come back from death, just a few ideas about it, lights and all that.
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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 11:53:17 AM »
I agree with Katluvr on all of her points.  I will say though I have intentionally killed Sims before.  When I found out my husband wanted a divorce and he had been cheating on me, I made Sims of both him and the other woman and killed them every way I could think of.  I've also had a file where I was playing an evil family of Sims and I fully expect evil Sims to act evil.  Read Carl's guide on the Emperor of Evil and you'll see what I mean.

    You did that?  It must have been great therapy! I'll have to admit that I did that once too.  I've got a really horrible in-law and it was fun to kill her off in the game.  ;D

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Re: What do you think about applying the killing game into the sims3?
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2012, 01:38:05 PM »
I've killed off cheating husbands, and work adversaries. I was fun getting rid of Lola Belle. She gets on my nerves!

 

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