What EXACTLY do households lose when saving to bin?

[donotrefreeze]

Before I begin, I have this real niggling feeling that I've seen a thread about saving households to the bin to move them to another town, and I was planning to just tack this on the end of there rather than starting a new thread, but I can't seem to find it for the life of me. Apologies if I'm just being dense and missing it!

Anyway, I want to move my current household (I say household, it's just one Sim) to Union Cove. I know she'll lose current wishes, that's no worry, but she has completed her LTW, so will that stay intact? How about her relationships with other sims in her current town (Sunset Valley) and in foreign countries? She's a tomb raider, so I was planning to place a lot of her relics in her personal or family inventory - will they be wiped (plus she has the Collection Helper LTR so I don't want to lose that)? In fact, do all LTRs remain intact? Also, perhaps most importantly.. she's pregnant - but not showing yet, she hasn't changed into her maternity clothes. I kinda want the baby to be born in Union Cove so if I'm not gonna lose anything I want to move her now, but I wonder if the game actually really recognizes the pregnancy pre-belly and maternity wear?

In short, what I need to know is which of these things are lost and which are kept when saving a Sim to the bin in order to move towns:

Completed LTWs
Relationships with Sims outside the household
Personal inventory
Family inventory
LTRs (physical items and otherwise)
Pregnancy (particularly in first trimester)

All help appreciated, thanks very much in advance!

[alex51299]

The one thing that I can tell you for certain is that she will not keep her relationship with the people in Sunset Valley.

[MarianT]

I recently moved a family to Union Cove, and they did keep what was in their personal inventory, including relics. I didn't have anything in family inventory, so don't know about that. I don't know about pregnancy. To be on the safe side, I'd wait until the baby is born.

[xFezIsAFreakx]

Completed LTWs
Relationships with Sims outside the household
Personal inventory
Family inventory
LTRs (physical items and otherwise)
Pregnancy (particularly in first trimester)

Actually, I need to know this stuff, too! I think I was the one that started that thread, perhaps asking if the family inventory is kept intact and I remember the person replying telling me it indeed was. I don't think you'll keep the pregnant sim, I do think the Lifetime Wish will be complete.

To tag onto your list of things, instead of starting a new thread I'd also like to ask if the sims take their Visa Levels in countries with them when being saved to the library as a household? I know the actual tombs won't be completed and the worlds will be set back to the start again when saving my household to the library and putting them in a new town, but what about their actual Visa Level? Will it go, too, since the adventures need to be reset?

[Jancy]

You could easily just try this without ruining the game you're playing now.  Just move them in to UC and give it a go.  I've saved my sims and families to the Bin and moved to different towns.  What I did notice though if your Sim is a Celebrity (movieStar) and the Movie Studio was not placed first in the town before moving them in I would have to start my career over from the beginning even if I placed the Movie Studio in after they moved in.  I then tried another game, placed the Movie Studio First, then moved them in and I could continue my career from the same point I was on in my original game.

[donotrefreeze]

The one thing that I can tell you for certain is that she will not keep her relationship with the people in Sunset Valley.

Of course - now I think about it that seems really obvious. And surely they won't keep their relationships with sims in foreign countries, since the foreign countries linked to the new town will be different instances of those countries!

To tag onto your list of things, instead of starting a new thread I'd also like to ask if the sims take their Visa Levels in countries with them when being saved to the library as a household? I know the actual tombs won't be completed and the worlds will be set back to the start again when saving my household to the library and putting them in a new town, but what about their actual Visa Level? Will it go, too, since the adventures need to be reset?

Ooh, very good question! I should have thought of that too, since my Sim in question is a tomb raider and her (completed) LTW was Seasoned Traveller. Tell you what, I'll fire up the game and see what stays and what goes and report back!

You could easily just try this without ruining the game you're playing now.  Just move them in to UC and give it a go.  I've saved my sims and families to the Bin and moved to different towns.  What I did notice though if your Sim is a Celebrity (movieStar) and the Movie Studio was not placed first in the town before moving them in I would have to start my career over from the beginning even if I placed the Movie Studio in after they moved in.  I then tried another game, placed the Movie Studio First, then moved them in and I could continue my career from the same point I was on in my original game.

Clearly I was having a stupid moment because I kinda forgot that it wouldn't be the end of the world if I couldn't save all of her progress - I could just continue playing her in SV. Duh! Haha. That's interesting about the movie studio though - I guess the same would go for any of the rabbit hole careers. That makes me assume that your Sim's position in a self-employed skill career or Ambitions profession would stay the same, too? That's something else I'll have to test out!

[donotrefreeze]

I recently moved a family to Union Cove, and they did keep what was in their personal inventory, including relics. I didn't have anything in family inventory, so don't know about that. I don't know about pregnancy. To be on the safe side, I'd wait until the baby is born.

Somehow I missed this post - Thanks for the relic info. As for the pregnancy, I think I'm going to move her anyway and see what happens just as an experiment - if she appears to not be pregnant I'm sure I can find some poor unsuspecting male in UC to father her nooboos!

EDIT: Figured I'd just add to this post rather than post a third one in a row. Everything remained except her relationships in SV, obviously. Her LTW was still complete (so yes Fez she still had visa level 3 in all countries), her inventory and LTRs were all still there, and best of all, 24 hours after I moved her into UC, her pregnant belly showed!

[xFezIsAFreakx]

Somehow I missed this post - Thanks for the relic info. As for the pregnancy, I think I'm going to move her anyway and see what happens just as an experiment - if she appears to not be pregnant I'm sure I can find some poor unsuspecting male in UC to father her nooboos!

EDIT: Figured I'd just add to this post rather than post a third one in a row. Everything remained except her relationships in SV, obviously. Her LTW was still complete (so yes Fez she still had visa level 3 in all countries), her inventory and LTRs were all still there, and best of all, 24 hours after I moved her into UC, her pregnant belly showed!

Yey! Thank you for going to check that out.

[donotrefreeze]

Yey! Thank you for going to check that out.

No problem, I'm glad it was useful for someone

[Sara2573]

Before I begin, I have this real niggling feeling that I've seen a thread about saving households to the bin to move them to another town, and I was planning to just tack this on the end of there rather than starting a new thread, but I can't seem to find it for the life of me. Apologies if I'm just being dense and missing it!

Anyway, I want to move my current household (I say household, it's just one Sim) to Union Cove. I know she'll lose current wishes, that's no worry, but she has completed her LTW, so will that stay intact? How about her relationships with other sims in her current town (Sunset Valley) and in foreign countries? She's a tomb raider, so I was planning to place a lot of her relics in her personal or family inventory - will they be wiped (plus she has the Collection Helper LTR so I don't want to lose that)? In fact, do all LTRs remain intact? Also, perhaps most importantly.. she's pregnant - but not showing yet, she hasn't changed into her maternity clothes. I kinda want the baby to be born in Union Cove so if I'm not gonna lose anything I want to move her now, but I wonder if the game actually really recognizes the pregnancy pre-belly and maternity wear?

In short, what I need to know is which of these things are lost and which are kept when saving a Sim to the bin in order to move towns:

Completed LTWs
Relationships with Sims outside the household
Personal inventory
Family inventory
LTRs (physical items and otherwise)
Pregnancy (particularly in first trimester)

All help appreciated, thanks very much in advance!

If you aren't sure, I would suggest making a copy and saving it to the "bin" so your WHOLE family/relationships/etc. are there. Move the copy to the town and see if the sim is still pregnant and see what you will lose. I haven't tried this yet, but I have saved my family to the bin and it works perfectly. Except the reason I saved them is because of Code 12, because I didn't want to lose them. And then a second later...my game crashed! xD

[thesimslover828]

They lose fish because of a bug, but everything else in their inventory's, both personal and house stay with them. Relationships go away but I really don't think pregnancy would be lost. 

[Anushka]

Charisma challenge - how many Sims your Sim knows - will be reset, not shore about photography skill challenge, but probably that one too.
Opportunity chain won't be broken! I used a Sim that finished planting cheese and steaks, and I got the Omnipotent Opp in my own world I was testing (with Science facility in it). Simbot opportunity will depend on rabbitholes you have in the world.
Family tree with deceased relatives should remain intact if you bring along tombstones.
Books from bookshelves, toys from toy boxes and food from fridges will be transferred in family inventory.
There used to be high chance of having Sim sculptures bugged - into empty discs or non selectable, not shore if it is changed.
If your Sim have placed items in community lots - tents, harvestables, gems, paintings etc - those items will appear in family inventory (99% certain about this).
Current wishes and opportunities are gone, but you get the warning about it when you save them to the bin.

Glad your girl moved to UC without problems, I'm shore she'll love it there

[Wai]

After a recent move of my sim household I became aware that you may lose all the contents of your bookcase and storage chests unless you transfer their contents to "personal inventory".  I think this is recent as I only discovered it a few days ago and testing has show this problem consistently (in Sunset Valley at least).

[Louise56]

I revive this thread, because something strange happen in my game. I was at week 13, a record for me lol and want to move a brother and sister to a new town. They was twins by the way. I put them in a new Sunset valley and they sit down to on the sofa. Suddenly they start to cuddle! I was shocked lol. When I look at the relationship, it stated then as friends! I just couldn't  play them anymore and abandon the file. It has never happen to me before!

[TheTripWasInfraGreen]

I once split up a household that way; it was a family of five (single dad and his four kids), and I split up two of the adult siblings via Edit Town to place them elsewhere in town. It broke their sibling relationship and they were just friends. Thankfully, they were about as platonic as "friends" could be. Cuddling would just break all my senses of decency.