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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2010, 09:19:55 AM »
Hidden Traits are just that, hidden.  If you run across a sim with 4 traits, it is a EA bug/mistake.  They tried to fix all of them with the latest updates/WA release, but I have found 1 or 2 without the full 5 traits since then.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2010, 09:26:30 AM »
vegetarian is up there too, like unflirty.
Daredevil is not far, but not top 5.

Every single sim I play is flirty. It's such a useful trait.



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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2010, 10:49:59 AM »
I think the most annoying trait would be absent minded, I had an absent minded Sim once, she kept forgetting almost everything.
She even came home from work after 1 Sim hour...

anyway, Never nude add nothing to the gameplay. Except when you are like me, I love role playing.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2010, 11:53:05 AM »
Romagia, what are you doing?  If you're responding to something was said by another member, please use the quote function so it will be easy to see what you're doing.  The way it's written now just looks confusing.  If it's not clear what you're trying to say, I'll have to remove your post.

The quoting system here is weird and i don't understand it.
But it's clear enough, at least for me 0.o
I tried to do something like this: http://snootysims.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=32406&start=20

And my only experience with hidden traits was with a hidden trait unlocker, which makes them to take a spot. Sorry.
Also, i got a french sim that has 4 normal traits and FrenchCulture, which makes me believe that some hidden traits take spots and some not.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2010, 12:03:49 PM »
The quoting system here is weird and i don't understand it.

It has to be less work then what you're doing by bolding every one of your replies. What exactly is weird about the quoting system for you?

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2010, 12:33:56 PM »
@Romagia:
A trait doesn't have to make the sim do some random animation once in a while to make it not low impact. Yes, some traits affect things more than others, what we are listing here is those traits that don't change the daily routine of the sim, the speed it learns, how well it relates to other sims, or even give a noticeable (good or bad) moodlet or boost any particular lifetime wish.
Most of what you mentioned and i refuted either offer a new way for a sim to play (mooch), boost a particular lifetime wish, offer a noticeable moodlet or let your sim build up relationships better with other sims.
Compare to, say, never nude, and you'll see why most of those, while lesser/unpopular than other traits, don't really make it to the top 5.

About hidden traits:
The trait unlocker lets you pick them like normal traits, limited by the standard game interface. Basically, it removes the hidden attribute of the traits. Normally, they don't appear on the list, don't take up a slot, and can only be obtained through genetics (this may not be true for the culture traits, need to confirm). You also don't know you have them until you, say, realize your adult sim can sneak or that your sim is not dying during a fire.
Hidden traits have lesser effects than normal traits, they're extra, "collectible" stuff to acquire for your legacy games through playing mad breeder with your sims.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2010, 02:36:22 PM »
The quoting system here is weird and i don't understand it.

It has to be less work then what you're doing by bolding every one of your replies. What exactly is weird about the quoting system for you?

I'm used to quote systems being much simpler. The way the site links to quotes (the author=Metropolis Man link=topic=540.msg7383#msg7383 date=1264525429) is weird. I'm used to just saying the user i'm quoting's name.
You can delete that post if you want to, as i don't really feel like adding quotes to all the parts i answered to TGBlank, and he read it anyway.

@Romagia:
A trait doesn't have to make the sim do some random animation once in a while to make it not low impact. Yes, some traits affect things more than others, what we are listing here is those traits that don't change the daily routine of the sim, the speed it learns, how well it relates to other sims, or even give a noticeable (good or bad) moodlet or boost any particular lifetime wish.
Most of what you mentioned and i refuted either offer a new way for a sim to play (mooch), boost a particular lifetime wish, offer a noticeable moodlet or let your sim build up relationships better with other sims.
Compare to, say, never nude, and you'll see why most of those, while lesser/unpopular than other traits, don't really make it to the top 5.

That was my definition of low impact; i added a list of them because, other then Clumsy and Never Nude, the rest are subjective. Everyone has a different Top 5.
And boosting a particular LTW isn't something too special.

About hidden traits:
The trait unlocker lets you pick them like normal traits, limited by the standard game interface. Basically, it removes the hidden attribute of the traits. Normally, they don't appear on the list, don't take up a slot, and can only be obtained through genetics (this may not be true for the culture traits, need to confirm). You also don't know you have them until you, say, realize your adult sim can sneak or that your sim is not dying during a fire.
Hidden traits have lesser effects than normal traits, they're extra, "collectible" stuff to acquire for your legacy games through playing mad breeder with your sims.

So NPC's that are supposed to have a hidden trait, and have just 4 traits are bugged... Ok, i understood.



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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2010, 03:48:53 PM »
I'm used to quote systems being much simpler. The way the site links to quotes (the author=Metropolis Man link=topic=540.msg7383#msg7383 date=1264525429) is weird. I'm used to just saying the user i'm quoting's name.

Maybe there are better and simpler systems. I don't know. This system I'm pretty familiar with and seems standard for a lot of game forums I frequent. I think the bottom line is if you want to have multiple quotes in your response then you have to go through the legwork and copy the initial quote code so it appears as a quote in your response with a different color. It is kind of a hassle. I just don't know if there's a better way.

EDIT: I just kind of realized I'm veering this off topic. Sorry.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2010, 03:52:39 PM »
Can't you just
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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2010, 03:54:14 PM »
The quoting system here is weird and i don't understand it.

It has to be less work then what you're doing by bolding every one of your replies. What exactly is weird about the quoting system for you?

I'm used to quote systems being much simpler. The way the site links to quotes (the author=Metropolis Man link=topic=540.msg7383#msg7383 date=1264525429) is weird. I'm used to just saying the user i'm quoting's name.
You can delete that post if you want to, as i don't really feel like adding quotes to all the parts i answered to TGBlank, and he read it anyway.


But you don't have to put all that stuff in yourself, you ust click the quote button in someone else's post. You can also copy paste that line in if you want to break up a quote, like you did before, and add an end quote thing at the end. If you want to quote two different posts, that is also very easy.
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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2010, 07:42:52 PM »
Thanks to everyone for explaining the quote system.

Romagia, please use these methods for your posts to avoid confusion.

Now, back on topic please!  :)
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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2010, 10:27:34 PM »
I think the problem with this debate is that people are confusing low impact with no impact. There are 0 traits that have no impact. Even never-nude changes the person's clothing slightly.

I agree with deep sleeper being up there. Yes, you sleep through burglars and fires, which happen, what, once every 30 sim days?

Clumsy, certainly.

Absent-Minded, I'm not sure how often the people drop the tasks, but if it's only like, once a day, I'd put it up there, but probably not top 5.

As for unlucky, besides the death thing, does this do ANYTHING? Because, if a trait could be replaced by merely a death flower, I'm fairly certain it should be considered top 5 low impact.

Oh, and what about commitment issues? I haven't done much experimentation, but to give a wish every once in a while to quit jobs/dump your partner, which you can ignore because the wishes have low LTHP values (I think?), that sounds pretty low impact to me.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2010, 05:40:22 AM »
As for unlucky, besides the death thing, does this do ANYTHING? Because, if a trait could be replaced by merely a death flower, I'm fairly certain it should be considered top 5 low impact.

An occasional -5 moodlet for an entire day, that increases the chanches of burglars coming, starting a fire when cooking, etc etc.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2010, 07:16:42 AM »
Absent-Minded, I'm not sure how often the people drop the tasks, but if it's only like, once a day, I'd put it up there, but probably not top 5.
I think it is a random thing, I've had a Sim who was born with this trait and she dropped a lot of actions.
Another time it took her about 3 days to drop the first one.

Oh, and what about commitment issues? I haven't done much experimentation, but to give a wish every once in a while to quit jobs/dump your partner, which you can ignore because the wishes have low LTHP values (I think?), that sounds pretty low impact to me.
Commitment issues could be an annoying trait if you try to get married, but other than for the Heartbreaker lifetime achievement I see no real show stopper here.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2010, 08:45:36 AM »
deep sleeper being up there. Yes, you sleep through burglars and fires, which happen, what, once every 30 sim days?
Don't forget babies, try having triplets without it, and having music while sleeping.

Oh, and what about commitment issues? I haven't done much experimentation, but to give a wish every once in a while to quit jobs/dump your partner, which you can ignore because the wishes have low LTHP values (I think?), that sounds pretty low impact to me.
Boosts gold digger/heart breaker/jack of all trades i believe. And the wishes go well with those LTW.