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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2010, 09:20:27 PM »
Hates the outdoors is noticeable though, not only the debuff is, well, there, but almost every time you send them out to buy stuff or some other random outdoorsy activity, they'll get a wish to go inside. They'll also get wishes for not going out for whole two days, and it may have an impact on getting the stir crazy moodlet when staying indoors too much.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2010, 10:11:09 PM »
Hates the outdoors is noticeable though, not only the debuff is, well, there, but almost every time you send them out to buy stuff or some other random outdoorsy activity, they'll get a wish to go inside. They'll also get wishes for not going out for whole two days, and it may have an impact on getting the stir crazy moodlet when staying indoors too much.

Frugal gets you coupons from newspaper.

Yeah, but we're comparing it to others. With frugal, you have to spend like 30 minutes to get like 20% off of random items you probably weren't going to buy anyways.



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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2010, 04:48:52 AM »
I would probabbly say Clumsy and Never Nude are the lowest impact traits. The other depend on your gameplay (i.e family oriented if your sim is single, athletic if you don't plan on raising athletic skill, adventurous, photographer's eye and disciplined if you don't plan going on vacantion, etc etc).

There are also traits with a low impact, like Vegetarian, Can't Stand Art, Good Sense of Humor, Dislikes Children, Easly Impressed, Excitable, Friendly, Frugal, Great Kisser, Heavy Sleeper, Light Sleeper, (Un)Flirty and Mooch.

Also, if you count hidden traits, then Makes no Messes, Can Salute, Can Sneak, Can Apprehend Burglar, Immune to Fire, Rocker, Pizza Appreciator, and the [French/Chinese/Egyptian]Culture traits have a very small impact also.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2010, 01:22:27 PM »
what are the new hidden culture traits?

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 02:02:30 PM »
what are the new hidden culture traits?

They make your sim know all french/chinese/egyptian songs, and that's all i believe... also Chinese culture makes your sim eat chinese food with chopsticks.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2010, 05:25:56 PM »
what are the new hidden culture traits?

They make your sim know all french/chinese/egyptian songs, and that's all i believe... also Chinese culture makes your sim eat chinese food with chopsticks.
French culture makes your sim greet another with a cheek kiss.
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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2010, 06:02:03 PM »
These are the top 3 traits imo that do literally nothing or have no benefits or shortcomings :
1. Never Nude
2. Absent Minded
3. No Sense of Humor

The thing with Can't Stand Art is they get a negative moodlet, Clumsy can lose fish when reeling them in, Hydrophobic get negative moodlets AND can't get the duck-time moodlet. The three I picked, however, can't get any negative moodlets specific to that trait or have any good moodlets specific to that trait. They also don't affect gameplay to the extent that some of the traits mentioned do. Now, If I had to pick 5, I would pick Clumsy and Hydrophobic as well, just because those do the least.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2010, 06:16:02 PM »
There are also traits with a low impact, like Vegetarian, Can't Stand Art, Good Sense of Humor, Dislikes Children, Easly Impressed, Excitable, Friendly, Frugal, Great Kisser, Heavy Sleeper, Light Sleeper, (Un)Flirty and Mooch.
Good sense of humor gives a boost to jokes, you can easily go up to a sim, make 3-4 different jokes and puff, you're a friend already, with barely any charisma. It's also the easiest way to complete the 100 jokes charisma challenge. I actually find it more effective than friendly or shmoozer for building up friendships.
Friendly, like good, prevents your sims from randomly insulting their partner/boss/partner AND boss by accident, they'll never be mean autonomously. Unlike good, it also comes with a bonus on certain conversation topics to make them more effective, which are also spread through most categories.
Easily Impressed and Excitable get you free moodlets for misc stuff frequently, i wouldn't be surprised if they also carried conversation options. Frugal gives a negative impact everytime you buy something expensive, and useless coupons the rest of the time.
Great kisser increases the chance of successful first kiss & other related kiss activities, also gives a heavy mood bonus for 4 hours for just kissing to BOTH sims, fairly good for a "kiss before work" and faster than brushing teeth.
Heavy sleeper lets you sleep with music, and sleep through roberies/fires/baby cry. Good if you have another sim or an alarm taking care of the emergency. No need to ruin the sleep of the sim that's going to work in the morning.
Moochs let you mooch money from sims, and mooch food from their fridges. You could go in their homes and live off your neighboors (and make money while at it) for the heck of it.
Haven't toyed with light sleeper or unflirty.
Flirty makes several flirt actions more effective, flirt actions not only take less sim time to do than say, friendly conversation options, they also build relationships faster. Flirty also fits like a glove to the heartbreaker and gold digger LTWs.
Can't stand art and dislikes children have heavy impact, that the impact is wholely negative is a different issue.

Also, if you count hidden traits, then Makes no Messes, Can Salute, Can Sneak, Can Apprehend Burglar, Immune to Fire, Rocker, Pizza Appreciator, and the [French/Chinese/Egyptian]Culture traits have a very small impact also.
First, hidden traits don't take up slots.
Makes no messes means no dirty shower/toilet/counter/kitchen, which means no negative moodlet or time wasted cleaning. Can salute gives you an effective greet that takes little to no sim time, can sneak & rocker are garbage, can apprehend burglar does 1/3 of what brave does for a free slot, Immune to fire does 90% what daredevil does for a free slot, pizza appreciator is miscellaneous albeit good meal buff isn't bad at all.
The different cultures lets you sing their songs, add an iddle to your sim (chinese would use a hand fan), autonomous sing song or sing song while cooking/shower, and a swift greet similar to salute. So basically, Can Salute + singing + random iddle/eat animation.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2010, 06:49:28 PM »
Just curious...
Can a normal sim gain one of the hidden cultural traits while on vacation? Or only an offspring of one of those french, chinese or egyptian sims?
And what would you need to do to gain the cultural trait?

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2010, 07:18:36 PM »
Easily Impressed and Excitable get you free moodlets for misc stuff frequently, i wouldn't be surprised if they also carried conversation options.

My Easily Impressed Sim can compliment people and their homes.  However, from what I've seen, she doesn't get any conversation options that wouldn't be covered by Schmoozer.  I also haven't really felt that the extra moodlets are noticeable compared to her parents--but I do like her habit of gawping as she enters a new room, which I assume comes from that trait.

Personally, while none of them are 'low impact' I felt that the three traits that came with World Adventures were a bit limited, considering their names.  Disciplined in particular seems weird to relate only to martial arts.  I'd have liked to see at least one trait that crossed over to elements of the base game.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2010, 07:33:50 PM »
Just curious...
Can a normal sim gain one of the hidden cultural traits while on vacation? Or only an offspring of one of those french, chinese or egyptian sims?
And what would you need to do to gain the cultural trait?

Yes, your Sim will pick up things like using chopsticks for Chinese food and the kissing cheek greeting while in France.  It seems to come from interacting with the locals while on vacation.
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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2010, 03:36:20 AM »
Good sense of humor gives a boost to jokes, you can easily go up to a sim, make 3-4 different jokes and puff, you're a friend already, with barely any charisma. It's also the easiest way to complete the 100 jokes charisma challenge. I actually find it more effective than friendly or shmoozer for building up friendships.

Intresting.

Friendly, like good, prevents your sims from randomly insulting their partner/boss/partner AND boss by accident, they'll never be mean autonomously. Unlike good, it also comes with a bonus on certain conversation topics to make them more effective, which are also spread through most categories.

Yes, but most of the bonuses it brings are passive. There are few new interactions/animations for Friendly.

Easily Impressed and Excitable get you free moodlets for misc stuff frequently, i wouldn't be surprised if they also carried conversation options. Frugal gives a negative impact everytime you buy something expensive, and useless coupons the rest of the time.

That isn't a very high impact. Getting a random +10/-10 moodlet for misc stuff.


Great kisser increases the chance of successful first kiss & other related kiss activities, also gives a heavy mood bonus for 4 hours for just kissing to BOTH sims, fairly good for a "kiss before work" and faster than brushing teeth.

Still, it's low impact.

Heavy sleeper lets you sleep with music, and sleep through roberies/fires/baby cry. Good if you have another sim or an alarm taking care of the emergency. No need to ruin the sleep of the sim that's going to work in the morning.

But it's an entire trait just for that. There are many others more useful, and that have higher impact.

Moochs let you mooch money from sims, and mooch food from their fridges. You could go in their homes and live off your neighboors (and make money while at it) for the heck of it.

Not big sums anyway

Haven't toyed with light sleeper or unflirty.

Me neither, but light sleeper just makes your sim randomly wake up(i think), and unflirty decreases your sim's ability to flirt. Neither have a big impact.

Flirty makes several flirt actions more effective, flirt actions not only take less sim time to do than say, friendly conversation options, they also build relationships faster. Flirty also fits like a glove to the heartbreaker and gold digger LTWs.

Yeah... but i consider it low-impact because it's mostly passive.

Can't stand art and dislikes children have heavy impact, that the impact is wholely negative is a different issue.

I got a Can't stand art sim and she still got moodlets for decorated room; sometimes, when i directed her to view art, she got a negative moodlet. Sometimes.
And there aren't many children in town for the Dislikes Children moodlet to pop up. And anyway, it's just -10 mood. A very small ammount. Grumpy sims allways have -15 mood.


Also, if you count hidden traits, then Makes no Messes, Can Salute, Can Sneak, Can Apprehend Burglar, Immune to Fire, Rocker, Pizza Appreciator, and the [French/Chinese/Egyptian]Culture traits have a very small impact also.
First, hidden traits don't take up slots.

They do. Otherwise how do you explain that sims with hidden traits have 4 traits?

Makes no messes means no dirty shower/toilet/counter/kitchen, which means no negative moodlet or time wasted cleaning. Can salute gives you an effective greet that takes little to no sim time, can sneak & rocker are garbage, can apprehend burglar does 1/3 of what brave does for a free slot, Immune to fire does 90% what daredevil does for a free slot, pizza appreciator is miscellaneous albeit good meal buff isn't bad at all.

Not that you would waste too much time cleaning.
The effective greet is what i call a low-impact trait.
The Can Apprehend Burglar trait is /not/ a free slot, meaning it's worse then Brave. So is Immune to Fire.
Considering that you took up a slot for a trait that gives a boost when eating pizza, it's what i call low-impact trait.


The different cultures lets you sing their songs, add an iddle to your sim (chinese would use a hand fan), autonomous sing song or sing song while cooking/shower, and a swift greet similar to salute. So basically, Can Salute + singing + random iddle/eat animation.
Intresting. But they don't impact gameplay too much.

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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2010, 03:52:06 AM »
Romagia, what are you doing?  If you're responding to something was said by another member, please use the quote function so it will be easy to see what you're doing.  The way it's written now just looks confusing.  If it's not clear what you're trying to say, I'll have to remove your post.
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Re: 5 Most Low Impact Traits
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2010, 04:28:22 AM »


First, hidden traits don't take up slots.

They do. Otherwise how do you explain that sims with hidden traits have 4 traits?

Really?  I haven't gotten any sims with hidden traits yet (that I know of).  Can they really only have 4 traits if they have a hidden one?  And if the sim had 5 traits, and picked up some French culture, would they lose of their traits?
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« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2010, 05:09:29 AM »
My only experience with the hidden trait Salute.  I've got all five of my original traits.  It doesn't use up a slot for the trait.  That's why it's "hidden".
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