2021 Tournament Big Dreams Finale

[GlazeyLady]

Is this challenge meant to be so Parenthood heavy? It appears to be required for at least 14 out of 17 big dreams. And one of the remaining 3 looks like it requires you to have both seasons and outdoor retreat to do it, so that's also out for me. Or would I be able to do something else instead of meeting the character trait requirement? Parenthood is one of the packs I'm least interested in. (For the record I have GTW, C&D, DU, TL, plus one I haven't installed yet, JA)

Perhaps you might consider including a few more big dreams which are doable with just base game only and/or with base game + 1 pack...? eg. life long learner seems to be mostly themed around DU but it still requires Parenthood and Seasons, similarly for Master Scientist and Vampire Monarch. Though I guess you probably have other dynasty challenges that are more suited to players with limited packs. I'm not a dynasty player personally - short(ish) challenges are much more my thing.

(I definitely don't expect to be able to do everything. In my case it was a deliberate choice to be a late adopter and only adding to my packs gradually is also a choice albeit influenced by limited income. But it is a little strange (imo) that having 3 big packs is no help and I can still only do the same two dreams that a base game only player would be able to do. If you want to keep this dynasty accessible to the widest possible range of players (which might not be a goal if you have other dynasties for this), my suggestion would be to aim for roughly something like 4-5 dreams doable with basegame only, another 4-5 just requiring a single pack, then the rest of them whatever goes).

The team will look into this - we'll need a few days.

"Big Dreams must be unique until you have completed all you can complete (based on the packs you have). Then you may repeat."

Once you can repeat, do you have to repeat all of them (available to you) before you can repeat one for the 3rd time? Or can you just repeat whatever you like as many times as you like once you've managed to complete every big dream available to you?

You complete a second round of unique dreams. And so on for third round, as needed.

Also can I start an offspring working on the toddler/child requirements of a big dream before it's older sibling has completed the same big dream? Because if I have to fully complete the only 2 big dreams available to me before the next 2 kids can start working on anything, that seems like it could be a significant disadvantage. The founding couple at least get a bit more freedom thanks to being exempt from the earlier requirements.

If you have run out of Big Dreams that you can complete for round 1, you can start on round 2 - you don't have to do round 2 in the same order, so yes, that could mean that a second sim is working on the same one.

"Spouses joining the household must complete the Most Interesting Sim in the World Achievement and complete 1 unique collection (not completed by any other spouse and not required by the sim's Big Dream - this sim must do all the work of acquiring the collection)"

I'm confused by this. Surely a spouse is not going to be able to complete a big dream because they join the household as an YA/adult (and therefore can't completely any toddler/child/etc stuff) so why is there the bit about "not being required by a big dream"?

I will try to reword that to make it more clear - because a spouse can't complete toddler, child or teen requirements, they have a special requirement that replaces those - that is to complete the Most Interesting Sim in the World Achievement and complete 1 unique collection.

[Metropolis Man]

@jesslc  -- you make some very solid points. I guess the team is running the risk of not having full participation if players do not have the required packs. However, this Finale is unique from previous ones...we've never tied it to a Dynasty. Dynasties are all about family, extending the bloodline, etc. So, naturally, the type of content in Parenthood is a good fit.

[Metropolis Man]

Made addition to 2nd post:

10/10 -- Correction to above. Work from home career - any career that allows your Sim to work from home every day, and your Sim must do that - no going to work.

[oshizu]

I have a few questions about the Financial Whiz (FW) Big Dream.

I understand how a sim could complete Fabulously Wealthy by herself, but the Rosebud Achievement is based on the household's total earnings.
After the Financial Whiz earns her $200k for the Fab Wealthy aspiration, tracking her earnings separately from the household would be time-consuming.
May we count the Rosebud achievement for that single sim's Big Dream, though it tallies the entire household's earnings?

Yes, the household money is going to count for Rosebud - you don't need to worry about that, you just need to achieve that while the sim who has that Big Dream is able to contribute - so as long as that sim is alive in the household and can earn money - which really is as a child, since they could sell things they collected or drawings, etc.

Regarding Mansion Baron, how do we make sure our FW does most of the work?
If our FW is Gen2, are the parents limited to furnishing the home lot only as required by the rest of the household's Big Dream requirements? 
(that is, aspiration-related skilling objects and such) in addition to the usual basic furnishings?
Is only the future Financial Whiz allowed to add paintings, landscaping, windows, and columns?
My apologies for over-thinking this, but I want to do it right.

No, none of those rules that make it a nightmare to track  - you just need to make sure the sim who has that Big Dream is contributing to the money, and that the aspiration is achieved while that sim can complete that aspiration - so they would have to be at least a teen, and should be the only sim in the household with that aspiration at the time, so that they are the first to achieve it. Other sims can then change their aspiration and rake in some free sat points.

And keep the questions coming - the challenge will only get better for them.

Thanks so much for the quick, clear responses.
Fabulously Wealthy: great news about the household Rosebud achievement!
Mansion Baron: That makes perfect sense that the Financial Whiz sim must initially be the only sim to work on Mansion Baron and the first to complete it.
                        (No landscaping endangers the Egg Hunt, lol!)

[math_chick]

I am new to Parenthood and have a questions about Character Traits (e.g. Responsible). My newbie understanding is that you can only gain these traits as a teen or younger. If that is correct, are those character traits considered a "teen/child/toddler" requirement and therefore the starting YA Sims and any spouses that add on to the household are exempt from having to earn that for their Big Dreams?

[GlazeyLady]

I am new to Parenthood and have a questions about Character Traits (e.g. Responsible). My newbie understanding is that you can only gain these traits as a teen or younger. If that is correct, are those character traits considered a "teen/child/toddler" requirement and therefore the starting YA Sims and any spouses that add on to the household are exempt from having to earn that for their Big Dreams?

Yes, they can be worked on as a child and as a teen, and the trait is awarded at age-up to YA. So the founders and any YA or older spouse coming in won’t be able to complete that. The founders are just exempt and new spouses have the achievement and unique collection requirement.

[math_chick]

I am new to Parenthood and have a questions about Character Traits (e.g. Responsible). My newbie understanding is that you can only gain these traits as a teen or younger. If that is correct, are those character traits considered a "teen/child/toddler" requirement and therefore the starting YA Sims and any spouses that add on to the household are exempt from having to earn that for their Big Dreams?

Yes, they can be worked on as a child and as a teen, and the trait is awarded at age-up to YA. So the founders and any YA or older spouse coming in won’t be able to complete that. The founders are just exempt and new spouses have the achievement and unique collection requirement.

Perfect! Thank you for clarifying for me!

[Granny Lawlor]

This looks fun!
Note to self: rearrange plans.....

[Nikitachi]

- Are there any restrictions on moving?
- Let's imagine a situation: I have already completed 10 Big Dreams, and I have a household of 7 Sims working on the remaining 7 Big dreams. If I add one more Sim, can I consider it a start of round 2 and choose any of 17 dreams for him/her?
- Once someone is married, can they divorce and add another spouse to household?
- Regarding the collections that require digging: when a sim is working on one of of these collections (let's say, crystals), they will inevitably collect fossils, MySim trophies and metals along the way. But since every sim must "do all the work" to complete their unique collection, does it mean that when another sim starts a collection that requires digging, I just have to track manually what they've found and make sure they found every item in this collection from scratch?

[Metropolis Man]

- Once someone is married, can they divorce and add another spouse to household?

Glazey has a busy week ahead of her, so she needs to weigh in on this one when she gets a chance. My opinion is no. That seems like an easy way of inflating the multiplier.

[Nikitachi]

- Once someone is married, can they divorce and add another spouse to household?

Glazey has a busy week ahead of her, so she needs to weigh in on this one when she gets a chance. My opinion is no. That seems like an easy way of inflating the multiplier.

I'd personally say no to that as well... but just want to make sure.
Looking forward to hearing the answers to the rest of my questions.

[GlazeyLady]

- Are there any restrictions on moving?
- Let's imagine a situation: I have already completed 10 Big Dreams, and I have a household of 7 Sims working on the remaining 7 Big dreams. If I add one more Sim, can I consider it a start of round 2 and choose any of 17 dreams for him/her?
- Once someone is married, can they divorce and add another spouse to household?
- Regarding the collections that require digging: when a sim is working on one of of these collections (let's say, crystals), they will inevitably collect fossils, MySim trophies and metals along the way. But since every sim must "do all the work" to complete their unique collection, does it mean that when another sim starts a collection that requires digging, I just have to track manually what they've found and make sure they found every item in this collection from scratch?

- Once someone is married, can they divorce and add another spouse to household?

Glazey has a busy week ahead of her, so she needs to weigh in on this one when she gets a chance. My opinion is no. That seems like an easy way of inflating the multiplier.

I agree with Tom on this - I will respond more fully to all these questions this afternoon - busy morning at work.

[oshizu]

Regarding the Most Interesting Sim in the World requirement for moved-in spouses:

I've never paid any attention to this achievement because we only get a flash notice for the first sim that earns it.
This means we'll manually track the requirement most of the time.
In this connection, the description says "Have a sim with 12 or more traits."  Does this include the 4 starting traits (3 personality traits + 1 bonus trait from starting aspiration)?

[Metropolis Man]

Regarding the Most Interesting Sim in the World requirement for moved-in spouses:

I've never paid any attention to this achievement because we only get a flash notice for the first sim that earns it.
This means we'll manually track the requirement most of the time.
In this connection, the description says "Have a sim with 12 or more traits."  Does this include the 4 starting traits (3 personality traits + 1 bonus trait from starting aspiration)?

Yes, the achievement triggers with your 4 starting traits, so you just need to track 8 more.

[GlazeyLady]

Regarding the Most Interesting Sim in the World requirement for moved-in spouses:

I've never paid any attention to this achievement because we only get a flash notice for the first sim that earns it.
This means we'll manually track the requirement most of the time.
In this connection, the description says "Have a sim with 12 or more traits."  Does this include the 4 starting traits (3 personality traits + 1 bonus trait from starting aspiration)?

I believe it does - just needs a total of 12 - it does show up on your screen and I think also in the notes at the top of the screen. I can verify that, but I'm pretty sure all traits in the trait panel count.