Sunset Valley 2020

[Jaga Telesin]

>> Sunset Valley 2020 Version 2.0 <<

Visit our website for Sunset Valley 2020 for more information and a gallery of screenshots.


Quick-Access Index:

• What is SV2020?
• What versions are available?
• SV2020 Map images
• Vanilla & Chocolate Features
• Download Links
• Install Instructions
• Playing Vanilla or Chocolate
• Contributor Credits
• Recommended Mods
• Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) ✽  Updated: Mar.2023
• Using SV2020 in Challenges
• Exclusive Sims in SV2020
• Family Information for Vanilla and Chocolate

Heavily inspired by Naga’s SV 7.0, MrsFlynn and I are happy to bring you a new pair of save files for The Sims 3! We’ve made sure to include all the wonderful features from that save in both versions of Sunset Valley 2020.


Designed for all Expansions
Like SV 7.0, Sunset Valley 2020 was designed for use with all Expansion Packs installed.  It has a broad amount of expansion content, and even some from various Stuff Packs. The saves will work even if you don't have all the expansions. The community lots will show, but will not be functional if you don't have all expansions.

World Routing Fixes
Both versions of Sunset Valley 2020 were constructed on the fixed Sunset Valley world file that EllaCharmed did. The world file was then fully cleaned, and all lots reconstructed by hand on top of it, which results in an extremely smooth running game.  Animals and Sims roaming around the town (outside of lots) won't get stuck anymore due to her terrain and lot adjustments. -- Read more about Ella's Fixed World Map File here.

Lot Routing Fixed
The largest Sims 3 performance issue in the past has been with Sim routing – they get stuck easily. That problem is virtually gone with SV2020: all lots on the world have been meticulously optimized for clean Sim routing, to ensure that Sims navigate smoothly and as few as possible get stuck. SV2020 has been tested on a laptop which is many years old, and runs extremely well.

A Smooth and Rich Game Experience!
Due to all the pathing fixes and optimized lots, you will find that many more sims “show up” to lots your Sims visit, in addition to just generally being *everywhere* in the town. Sunset Valley 2020 is much more alive and populated, and is aimed at providing a fantastic Sims 3 experience.


Screenshots (click to expand)
   
     

Full screenshot albums are available on our dedicated website in the Gallery section!


Two Versions to Choose From
There are two versions of 2020 to use: Vanilla (bean), and (milk) Chocolate! Vanilla is aimed at a more traditional experience without supernatural Sims (but watch for our Easter eggs!). Chocolate has a population of 25% supernaturals and 75% regular human Sims. Each is presented as a saved game (before choosing a starting family).

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SV 2020 Maps:

• SV2020 v2 Map - Normal Resolution (lossy JPG, 909 KB, resolution: 1920x1138)
• SV2020 v2 Map - High Resolution (lossless PNG, 12 MB, resolution:  4k)
• SV2020 v2 Map - Bird's Eye View (no icons/legend, lossless PNG, 12 MB, resolution:  4k)

Both Vanilla & Chocolate include:

• World routing fixes from EllaCharmed’s Sunset Valley map.
• Optimized lots for streamlined performance and minimal or no stuck Sims.
• A large number of new Sims from other towns: Appaloosa Plains, Starlight Shores, Moonlight Falls, Bridgeport, and even some custom Sims.
• Several upgraded lots, and a brand new beachfront property. - See this post for more details.
• Arboretum, Consignment Store, Elixir Consignment store, Fire Station, Gypsy Wagon, Hall of Antiquity, Junkyard, Laundromat and a Salon.
• All club types from Late Night, allowing night-time socialization and hotspots.
• The ability to complete the mixology challenges for clubs & bars.
• A Generations upgraded park, and a large Festival Grounds park for Seasons.
• Equestrian Center & Horse Ranch.
• Subways scattered around town to help mobility-challenged Sims.
• Separate Pet parks for cats & dogs.
• Showtime lots for aspiring Sims. - *Fixed* See this post.
• A new pair of lots for players wanting to play a "Squatters" challenge. (aptly named Squatter's Summit)
• A new Island Paradiso Resort. (The Royal Paradise Hotel)
• A Fixer upper Resort called Ticky-Tacky-Tiki (Aka Hobart's Hideway) Revamped. - Routing issues resolved. Suitable for players to buy and upgrade early on.
• Mooring posts to purchase boats from, down at the beach by the Ticky-Tacky-Tiki Resort.
• Four Dive Spots from Island Paradiso can now be found in the bay.
• A new 60x60 custom home on the hill, suitable for luxury living or a large family.
• Most homes have cribs added for families with babies or new arrivals.
• An extra criminal hideout for those seeking a change of career.
• All Sims start as they would in a new game:  base skills and no unnatural aging.

In addition to the above, each save file has distinct differences for a unique experience:

SV2020 Vanilla:

• More Sims populating the town – a large number of new faces!

SV2020 Chocolate:

• A balanced selection of supernatural Sims to spice up the town. (25% population)
• Similar to Vanilla, more (and different) Sims have moved into town.

 

CC and Store Content free!

• No Custom Content (CC) or Store Content was used in either Vanilla or Chocolate!
• No spawners were modified, with the exception of two Robot Fish spawners to support the moved Science Facility. - Read more
  here about the Robot Fish.

Requirements:

• All Expansion Packs (EPs) were used in building the save files, and are highly recommended for play.
  -- The community lots will show, but will not be functional if you don't have all expansions.
• EllaCharmed’s Fixed Sunset Valley .world file (download & install instructions below)
  Note:  SV2020 will not run properly without first installing the .world file!

SV2020 Version 2.0 Download Links

• SV2020 v2.0 - Vanilla (53 MB)
• SV2020 v2.0 - Chocolate (53 MB)
• EllaCharmed’s Fixed World File (required, 69 MB)
• Original Sunset Valley World File (67 MB)

Additionally you can download directly from our website's Downloads page.

   ✽ Need help downloading, extracting and installing the save files? Read over this article here for our how-to.

   – Alternative Download Links: Vanilla Save File ❈ Chocolate Save File ❈ Ella's Fixed World Map File ❈ Original Sunset Valley World File


Install Instructions
There are two parts to SV 2020’s installation: 1) The .world file, and 2) The SV2020 packages which are save games (Vanilla or Chocolate, or both if you want).

Step 1: Installing the World File (required):

• Click the Windows Start button, find the search box, type in Sunset Valley.world
• Look for "Sunset Valley.world" in the file results window, right-click it and then click "Open File Location"
• You should see “Sunset Valley.world” in the folder that opens.  Right-click it and choose "Rename", then rename it to “Sunset Valley.old”
• Extract the .world file from the Sunset_Valley.zip file you downloaded here, and copy it to the folder where you renamed the original Sunset Valley.world to .old
• When done correctly, your Worlds folder should look something like this:

  ✽ Your Worlds install path may be different, depending on how you have your game installed.

Step 2: Installing 2020’s Vanilla or Chocolate’s save files (required):

• After downloading the Vanilla or Chocolate Zip from this topic, extract the Zip to a folder
• Using a file manager, browse to your “Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Saves” folder
• Copy the extracted folder to that Saves folder
• When done correctly, your Saves folder will have a new folder in it (for each SV 2020 version you install):

Playing Vanilla or Chocolate
After installing the .world file and either the Vanilla or Chocolate save, launch The Sims 3 and wait for the main menu.  There should be a new save-game icon in the load window for whichever version of SV2020 you installed.

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In the main menu you should see a silhouette of a family and a house when an SV2020 save is selected. This is normal, it means there is no active family selected. Click the checkmark to start the game, and select or move in a family.

Playing SV2020 is as easy as loading that save, and when the town is viewable click on the button at the top labeled “Return to Game Setup”.  From there you can create or choose a household and begin playing!




Contributor Credits

• Jaga Telesin, for taking the time to put the save files together, clean up and fix routing issues on the lots as well as various other things.
• MrsFlynn, for countless hours of creative work on Sims, lots, inspiration, feedback, the new Myrtle Beach property and support help!
• Flynn Arrowstarr, for the Modern Zen Home, many screenshots, and other contributions along the way.
• Naga, for providing inspiration & lots from the original Sunset Valley 7.0 (a base for SV2020)
• EllaCharmed, for her fixed version of the Sunset Valley map
• Lynley1248, for the The Loess (4BD/4BA) house lot
• Ausette, for the Dance Club and the original Terra Cot 5br 3.5ba lot (modified & expanded by Jaga Telesin)
• Joria, for the Dive Bar and Sports Bar
• Jotape, for the original Royal Paradiso Hotel (heavily modified by Jaga Telesin)
• HappyASU09, for the Sunnyside Strand beach property
• Nallis, for the Recurve Strand Beach Bar
• Danefaith, for the improved Mirabello Plaza
• Renewed Central Park from Samoht04 & Naga
• Turjan, for lot tweak ideas, tips, feedback and support help
• MrsGoodWrench, for tips, feedback and support help

   ✽ From MrsFlynn, for clarification purposes: -- This information has been added into a quote box for better visibility.

Please Note: Jaga put the SV2020 save files together along with owning and creating the official website. He has the master save files. I cannot do anything to the saves to update/fix them. I feel I also need to clarify - I do not own the official site nor do I have access to it any longer. I cannot fix any broken links. This is why I've added alternative download links via SimFileShare.net for the saves. - See this post.

I will help the best I can on support of the save files here on Carl's forum.

Read more here on what my roll in the SV2020 project is.

Updates:

• Mar. 22nd 2023 - Updated the .world install path. See the FAQs post, here for more info.
• Mar. 29th 2022 - Added a link to the Original Sunset Valley World File, as explained in this post.
• Aug. 18th 2021 - Thread locked due to creator no longer supporting the save files. - Read about it here.
• June 5th 2021 - Tips for Helping with Excessive Lag. - Read about the tips here.
• May 3rd 2021 - Upgraded Lots Clarification. - Read more about it here.
• Apr. 21st 2021 - Added alternative download links for the SV2020 files. - See this post.
• Mar. 10th 2021 - Fixed Showtime Lots - Details here or Download Lots here.
• Mar. 27th 2020 - v2.0 of Vanilla & Chocolate released.
• Jan. 12th 2020 - v1.1 of the Royal Paradise Hotel resort lot added for download (a replacement for the original lot)
• Jan. 1st 2020 - v1.0 of Vanilla & Chocolate released.

[Jaga Telesin]

Recommended Mods
(for enhanced performance, fixing bugs, and quality-of-life improvements)

• NRaas mods (highly recommended!): ErrorTrap, Overwatch, MasterController, Register, Traffic, Mover, NoCD, Relativity, Retuner, etc.
• Opportunity Phone Call Fix - If have Into the Future Installed.
• MissyHissy's Job Centre - Get More Careers
• Elevator Faster Mod (fast version)
• No Route Fail Tantrum
• Interaction On Sloped Terrain Enabler
• ‘No Stretch’ Children Can Series
• No More Crying Over Plants
• Autonomous Fun In The Sun
• Twoftmama’s Route Fixes (register on simsasylum.com to view/download)
• Shimrod’s Resort Revamp mod  (register on simsasylum.com to view/download)
• Shimrod’s Dive Cave Reset Fix mod  (register on simsasylum.com to view/download)

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) and Information

  ✽ Updated: Mar. 2023  -- Thank you for the questions and reporting issues with the save files!!

We're aware there are a few issues with the save files and have tried to provide fixes for them. Jaga (The creator of the saves) is no longer supporting the save files. - Read more about it here.

Q: How do I Download, Unzip/Extract and Install the SV2020 Save Files?

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A: See this article - Downloading, Extracting and Installing the SV2020 Save Files to help download, unzip or extract and install the save files.

Or refer to the links below for help in extracting/uncompressing the files:

This article for PC users

This article for Mac users

   ⚜️ Click here for more Install Troubleshooting.

Q: I can't seem to find the right folder for the Sunset Valley.world file, where is it?

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A: If Windows Search isn't working for some reason, you can find the default install folder for The Sims 3 under these paths:

For the EA App Version (Default Path)
C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 3\GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\Worlds

For the Origin Version (Default Path)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\The Sims 3\GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\Worlds

For the Steam Version (Default Path)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Sims 3\GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\Worlds

For the Disc Version (Default Path)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\Worlds

  – Example world install path. Yours may be slightly different depending on where you installed the game.
C:\Games\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Base Game\GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\Worlds

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As shown in the photo, the old .world file was renamed. This is so it can be switched back if needed.

   ✽ The path for Mac users is a little different. Please see the question below, Can I use these worlds on a Mac? to find the .world file.

Q: Can I play these save files on a Mac? ~ Yes!!

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A: Simply place the extracted save game into your Saves folder, and be sure to place the Sunset Valley.world file where your original was, after renaming the original one in that folder to .old.

Open Applications or the user Applications folder, which you can reach by clicking on Macintosh HD (or whatever you've renamed your hard disk) in a Finder window and selecting:

Users > your username > Applications.  From there, the file path is:

The Sims 3.app > Contents > Resources > The Sims 3.app > Contents > GameData > Shared > NonPackaged > Worlds

When you want to open an .app, right-click on it and select "Show Package Contents."

  ✽ Reference Link:
[Mac] Unable to locate Sunset Valley.world file
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-Mac/Mac-Unable-to-locate-Sunset-Valley-world-file/td-p/9887239

Q: I don't see the SV2020 save game in the load menu, what do I do?

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A: Make sure that:

1. The unzipped save folder you have downloaded is in \Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Saves.

2. Is named the same as the download (without the .zip extension), and has files directly inside the folder (not in a sub-folder).

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     – Do note it is normal to see a silhouette of a family and a house when an SV2020 save is selected at the Sims 3 main menu. It means there is no active family selected. Click the checkmark to play/start the save, and select or move in a family.



    ✽ Please refer to this article for more help.

Q: I loaded a SV2020 save, but it doesn't seem to be working (or there is a lot of lag)

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A: You can try installing the fixed Sunset Valley.world file. This has been reported helpful by some players as part of troubleshooting the issue. Instructions on how to install it are here.

If the world file and save file have been correctly installed and there is still a lot of lag at the start of the game, please give it a few minutes for the game to catch up. The game may be trying to finish setting up the save. Please understand SV2020 is a full town with only a few empty lots, and many of the lots are highly detailed. This can cause a lot of lag when loading and playing either save file.

Like the Royal Paradise Hotel and the bar lots for example. These lots have a lot of bar objects that need to be staffed by service Sims. If you continue to have lag, you may want to consider taking out the large hotel and some of the bars and/or other lots that you aren't using to see if that might help.

 -- Deleting the subway lots and objects may help with relieving lag as well, as they are known to cause some lag.

Another help with lag tip: It's been suggested to remove some households if desired. Some players have deleted some or all of the households that were added to these saves from the player-made families to the families added from the different expansions.  Check here to see who was added.

Read more tips for helping with excessive lag here.

Q: What do I do if the game tells me some objects could not be loaded?

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A: If you get a message about the game not loading objects when starting a save (and are sure you have all EPs installed), you can safely ignore it.  We (and other creators) used some content from Stuff Packs, which the game will replace with base game objects if an equivalent object is available. If not, it won't be replaced.

Q: Will using EllaCharmed's .world file harm my older Sunset Valley saves?

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A: Using an original Sunset Valley save game (started before installing EllaCharmed's fixed .world file) is perfectly fine, but you may notice some visual artifacts with lot placement and roads.  If you are going to be switching between older SV saves and newer SV2020 saves, you may want to replace the .world files each time you change. 

However, starting a new SV game with EllaCharmed's world file is acceptable, and in fact why she created the world file.  It's been said it fixes routing issues all over.

Q: I don't have this or that expansion pack, will the save files still work?

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A: We've tested the save files while disabling different expansions. The saves load and play fine.

   ✽ The community lots from any missing expansions will show up, but they will not be functional and in that case can be removed to make room for other lots.

Showtime is somewhat required. For it's stadium. Ambitions is suggested, as it's Diner is installed in the SV2020 saves.

The game does not replace the stadium automatically if you don't have Showtime, so the stadium will need to be replaced.  Click here to learn how to replace the stadium.

If you don't have Ambitions installed, the diner will be replaced with Hogan's Deep-Fried Diner.

Any objects from any expansions you don't have may get replaced with base game objects or just removed, depending on if base game has equivalent objects.

Need help with saving a lot? How To: Save a Lot to the Library

Q: Are all the original Sim Families from Sunset Valley present in these saves?

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A: No, some beloved families aren't in either versions of SV2020.

We're very sorry about that!!  Some of the families were removed to make room for families from the different expansion packs as well as some player made Sims.

Read more here on who was added and deleted from the SV2020.

Q: Can I move my existing families into SV2020?

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A: Yes, you can move your existing families by going into your current save and saving them to the library. You can do the same with their house and any community lots you want to move over.

Need help with saving a household? How To: Save a Household to the Library

Need help with saving a lot? How To: Save a Lot to the Library

Q: Can I remove existing families or lots to place my own?

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A: Yes!  SV2020's save files are just like any other save file - you can move families, remove them entirely if you want, or even bulldoze their homes or other lots to make space for your own.  If you bulldoze community lots without moving them elsewhere, you may lose access to certain content from different Expansion Packs (like the ability to complete Bar challenges from Late Night).

Q: Is there room to add more community lots?

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A: If you would like to add more community lots, (extra schools, university lots, Sims 3 Store lots, CC lots, etc.) you will need to bulldoze any existing houses or other community lots as there are not very many empty lots in these save files, due to it being a small map and a full town.

Q: How do I save the lots from SV2020?
I like some of the lots from SV2020 and want to add them to my new save file.

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A: You can do this by saving any lot to your library and then placing them in your new save file.

Need help with saving a lot? How To: Save a Lot to the Library

Please be aware that some of the lots' terrain has been edited and may not place correctly in your new save. The lot may need to be edited again.

If so, please see Crinrict's article linked below for help with that.

Imported house raises/lowers the terrain
https://sims3.crinrict.com/en/2011/06/bug-imported-house-raiseslowers-the-terrain.html

To edit the terrain, you need to use this build cheat:

SetImportedTerrainOffset (value)

It's been recommended to try starting with a minus 2 ( -2 ) and go from there. Positive numbers raise the lot and negative numbers lower the lot.

Karritz Tutorial - Fix Terrain Height of Placed Lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Z2A5EA8Xs

Q: SV2020 is missing some community lots? - Hogan's Deep-Fried Diner, the original stadium and Old Pier Beach.

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A: Most of the community lots from the original Sunset Valley are still there, with exceptions of these lots:

 -- Hogan's Deep-Fried Diner. It was removed and replaced with Brunton's Boxcar Diner from Ambitions - located behind the Supermarket in Mirabello Plaza.

 

 -- The original stadium was replaced with the one from Showtime, as it's not only a stadium, it's a big show venue.

 

 -- The lot formerly known as Old Pier Beach was renamed Sunset Beach and moved down the beach, just off of Sunnyside Blvd.

 

Q: Where's the Stadium? I don't have Showtime and there's no Stadium?

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A: If you don't have Showtime, a black box will be in it's place, as it has been removed from the save and will not function.

It will look like this: (Click image to see larger view)



   ✽ The game does not replace the stadium automatically.  If you do not have Showtime, it will need to be replaced.  There are two to options to fix this:

1. Edit the lot, delete the stadium shell. Go into Build Mode > Community Objects > Buildings tab and Filter by Sims 3 and look for Llama Memorial Stadium and place it on the lot.

2. Load up the original Sunset Valley and save a copy of the original stadium to your library and place it into your SV2020 save file so that you can have a functional stadium.

   ✽ Due to replacing the stadium, you will need to have your Sim join the Sport Career again.

The Stadium from Showtime was added to the SV2020 saves as it's not only a stadium, it's a big show venue.

Q: The seasonal festivals aren't being held at Central Park? Was the lot moved?

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A: Yes the lot was moved to Summer Hills Springs - 25 Summer Hill Court. Next Door to the Altos.

Festival Lot ~ Summer Hill Springs (Click images to see larger view)
 

Q: I can't find the Robot fish, Where have they been moved to?

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A: You can find the robot fish in two ponds. Up at the pond at Stoney Falls, 57 Waterfall Way. And Pinochle Pond (near the Equestrian Center and "Loft" houses), in the middle set of fish.

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Stoney Falls


Pinochle Pond

Q: Spawners in the SV2020 save files?

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We don't think Jaga added any specific spawners from any of the expansions.  The spawners from the original Sunset Valley are there, players can find plants, gems, rocks etc. – Read more about it here.

Q: Will my custom content work with SV2020?

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A: Yes!  Vanilla and Chocolate contain no Custom Content themselves, but you are free to add it in after starting a game using them. Items will work as they normally do in any other saved game.

Q: Are the Travel Worlds and University still available with SV2020?

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A: Yes, you can travel to the WA destinations and University from either save.

Q: I don't see any ports, houseboats or World Adventure tombs, why?

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A: We've intentionally omitted ports and houseboats from SV2020 due to the fact they typically generate more lag in the game than desired.  If you want to add ports and then the houseboats, you are more than welcome to modify the save files to suit your needs.  WA Tombs are best left to vacation worlds, and we didn't want to change SV to the point it looked like a WA world.

Q: Does SV2020 Have Any Hidden Islands?

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A: There aren't any hidden islands in the SV2020 save files, but did find it's possible to add them by saving them from IP to the library and then placing them into your save file.  - Add hidden islands.

SV2020 is not big enough to add all 8 hidden islands to the map along with having all 4 of the dive spots. Besides, trying to do so may be too much for the game to handle, specially for such a small map such as Sunset Valley.

Disclaimer: If you try adding any OR all the islands to your save, it's at your own risk. We don't know what one island will do or if they'll all fit, as most if not all of them are quite large in size.

   – Read more here.

Q: Can I upgrade the Resort Towers in The Royal Paradise Hotel?

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A: Yes!  You can upgrade them exactly one time each.  If you upgrade them more, they will start to "poke through" the floors above them.  To get a larger resort capacity without doing that, you can use the Island Paradise Rabbit Hole Rugs mod, which allows you to simulate another Resort Tower in the form of a rug.  The file you'd want is called ResortTowerRugs_MistyVG.rar. Simply drop one down on the floor by the existing towers, and upgrade it as much as you like.

Q: How can I improve performance for large Resort lots (like The Royal Paradise Hotel)? 

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A: Due to the streamlined performance of SV2020, you may find many more sims showing up at lots your sim visits.  With the IP expansion and sims choosing to lie out in the sun, this means more choices for things to do on Beach & Resort lots, and more sims doing them.  To improve Resort lot and Beach lot performance significantly, follow these short instructions:

• Download and extract/install NRaas Retuner to your Mods\Packages folder
• Start up the game, and load your save
• Go to Map view, then click on the Town Hall icon.  Choose NRaas -> Retuner
• From the menu that opens, click "Show Object Menu" to toggle it to True, then click the large Checkmark in the lower right.
• Zoom into any lot, and click on a patch of open ground.  Choose NRaas -> Retuner -> General, this will open a list.
• Find "Relax Here" in the list and click it.  A new menu will open.  Turn all items in the list from True to False by clicking on them, except User Directed. When done, click the large check mark to exit.
• This setting is saved when you save your game.  If you start a new game with either Vanilla or Chocolate, you will have to re-do this change.

You may also want to disable "Play in the sand" autonomous actions for NPC sims (other than children) using NRaas Retuner:

• Make sure Show Object Menu is turned on for Retuner (first set of steps in above list)
• Zoom into any lot, and click on a patch of open ground.  Choose NRaas -> Retuner -> General, this will open a list.
• Find "Play in Sand" and click it.  A new menu will open.  Find "Allow Age Species" and click it, and another menu will open.
• The only entry in the list you want set to 'True' is for 'Human Child'.  If any of the others are True, click them to toggle them to 'False'.  When done and the only entry with True is Human Child, click the large Check mark.

These changes to available sim interactions can significantly improve the game's performance on large Resort and Beach lots.

Q: Why wasn't CAW Used or Combined Rabbitholes Placed?

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A: CAW wasn't used because there wasn't a desire to change the map layout.

Combined rabbitholes can cause more issues for players, in that they don't work for some in-game opportunities and aren't fixed by mods. Opportunities need to be canceled, rabbitholes maybe replaced with the single ones to then possibly complete the opportunities once they come back up, but this isn't guaranteed to work due to how sensitive the game is.

Q: Which Sims 3 version do I need to play it, 1.67 or 1.69?

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A: It doesn't matter which version (1.67 or 1.69) The SV2020 saves play fine on either one.

➡ Info: Upgraded Lots Clarification - Community lots are all the same between the saves.

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We often got feedback from different players that they downloaded Chocolate instead of Vanilla because of the upgraded lots. We were curious about this, so we looked into it as we want to be fair to both Vanilla and Chocolate.

What we found was the community lots are all the same between the saves.

However, some of the homes have been moved, remodeled in the saves or removed from the saves.

- See this post for more details.

➡ Info: Tips for Helping with Excessive Lag

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The info in the post linked below is geared toward the SV2020 saves, but can be considered for other player-created save files or even custom worlds.

https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/forum/index.php?topic=31158.msg510889#msg510889

In that if you're getting a lot of lag, look at how many families have been added to the save or world. Take any buildings/lots out that you aren't specifically playing with.

➡ Info: I found a stuck sim that NRaas had to reset!

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A: If you find a spot around town, or in a lot that came with or was added to SV2020 (either version) and still experience problems, please let us know and we'll try to investigate.  If you've made changes to a lot a sim gets stuck on, we can't guarantee that pathing and object placement will continue to be optimal on that lot.

➡ Info: Missing pet items in houses.

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We are aware there aren't any pet dishes/beds/toys in any of the houses that have pets added to them. This has been noted, but please understand it may or may not be fixed. However, you may add those objects yourself by going into buy mode while on any residential lot.

There's a few ways to edit lots:

  1. Via Edit Town
  2.With active Sim and testingcheatsenabled on, click on ground of lot you want to edit and select build or buy on this lot. Warning this will use your active household's money.
  3. If using mods Nraas Debugenabler build/buy on this lot.

➡ Info: Subway Issues

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It was reported that a few lots have a double map icon/name tag issue when looking at the map in Map View. We've looked into this and found it may be by design when the object or building is on a lot of it's own. For example, the Vault/Hall of Antiquity lot, and single subway lots.

We also wanted to mention that the single subway lots can be renamed via Edit Town mode. Left-click on the bench icon and Edit Details button, which is the pen/paper icon. After you've renamed the subway, you can mouse over either the subway icon or bench icon to see it's new name.

   – Read more here.

➡ Info: SV2020 and Katy Perry Sweet Treats.

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SV2020 does not have any Katy Perry Sweet Treats (KPST) lots installed. However, it does have 1 item from the pack installed.



It's the Fountain of Sweet Treats and is placed in the Royal Paradise Hotel. Not having this item should not affect either save file. The lot that looks like it has items from KPST is one from Showtime called Flying V's Coffeehouse.  – Read more about it here .

➡ Info: Junkyard Spawners Double/Triple

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It's been brought to our attention that players have seen double/triple spawners on the junkyard lot. This really isn't an issue with any particular save files, it's more with placing lots that have spawners on them, such as the junkyard.

Read this post to learn how to fix it.

➡ Info: Tips for Better Game Performance and Game Troubleshooting

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This information below doesn't specifically have to do with the SV2020 saves, but wanted to add it anyway. As I see many questions about game performance and troubleshooting the game.

The troubleshooting tips are geared towards the steam version, but some tips can be applied to any version of Sims 3.

Nraas's Tips for Better Game Performance:
https://www.nraas.net/community/TIPS-FOR-BETTER-GAME-PERFORMANCE

The Sims 3 Performance & Bug Fix Guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1131162350

Troubleshooting for The Sims 3
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=279488894

✽ Issues: Central Park Performance, Can't Do Simfest at Bar and Other Showtime Issues - Fixed!!.
Under the spoiler tag are notes on how to fix the effected lots. We also have a fixed lots file you can download here.

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   ✦ Replacing the show markers in the different venues around SV2020 may help in being able to perform shows and gigs. Click the Spoiler tags below to find more information.

   – Note from MrsFlynn: As I was playing the singing career in my SV2020 save I was running into the same issues that other players were having with the ST lots, so I decided to edit them and share.

The zipped file includes fixed lots for Central Park, Mad Broncos Bar, the Stadium, Port a Party is now a Private Venue.

Download the fixed Showtime Lots -
http://www.simfileshare.net/download/2397247/

The files are in .package format and need to be copied into your Library folder. There's a file that gives more detail in the zip file.  It's called HowTo_Install.txt

I only fixed the few lots mentioned above, as I didn't realize at the time of fixing those lots there are other showtime lots that may need to be fixed as well. I have a how-to for that linked below, if needed:

[Info.] Fixing Showtime Lots ~
https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/forum/index.php?topic=32190.msg511123#msg511123

    -----

If you'd like to fix the lots yourself, please keep reading.

✽ Issue: Performing in Central Park Issue and Fix

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The watch the show interaction cancels itself out, due to it needing 3 or 4 audience markers. This can be fixed by placing them via buydebug. You are looking for objects called Show Floor Benches or Tables. What was placed was bench markers, as seen in 2nd photo. After it's fixed, save a copy of the lot to the library.   

 – From Edit Town click on the lot - Build/Buy mode.

 – Press Shift-Ctrl-C all together, and type in Testingcheatsenabled on.

 – Press Shift-Ctrl-C again and type in buydebug on.

 – Buy mode > Sort by Function > Buydebug > Misc Objects - Filter content by Showtime.

 – Look for objects Show Floor for Benches or Tables.

Click image to see larger view.
 

✽ Issue: Mad Broncos Bar (Can't Do Simfest) - Fix

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The tables/chairs are too close together and may have too many show floor markers for the Simfest items to work properly. You may also want to remove some of the seating so that the Sims can watch the show, as it seems the Sims don't really need the seating when Sims are performing shows.
-- Note: The seating if removed, may not be replaced after the show is over. Not sure if that's a bug or by design.

The lot will need to be edited to fix this.

Click images to see larger view (Before and After)
 

What's shown in the after photo is a shortened karaoke area, table/chair markers removed and replaced with bench markers, 2 less seating areas moved a bit to make more space between them.
-- Testingcheatsenabled on and buydebug were used.

Trying to replace it with Mick's Master Karaoke Bar from the Community lots tab will have same problem. (Crowded tables/chairs) It's best to either remove some of the table/chair and markers and then replace with bench markers to help Sims watch the show and be able to have room to perform.

✽ Issue: Can't Summon Proprietor - Fix

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Something may have happened when the stadium was placed in SV2020. Due to this, it needs to be replaced before you can have the option to summon the Proprietor.

Save a copy of the lot to the library. Bulldoze the current one and replace it from the library.

✽ Issue: There are 2 Live Show Venues in SV2020? - Fix

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We are aware there are 2 live venues in SV2020. Port a Party is suppose to be a Private Venue. As shown here on SimsWiki.

To fix this, change the lot type to Private Venue from Edit Town.

Mad Bronco's Bar is suppose to be the only Live Venue.

✽ Issue: Dive Lots (Floating Above Water Level/Get Flung Back from Dive Spot)

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All 4 dive lots do work as designed other than the buoys and Sims swimming above water.

Click image to see larger view


This seems to be an issue with dive lots that are added to any town or save file from the library. As is the case with the dive lots in SV2020, they were copied over from IP.

There are some suggested fixes, but aren't guaranteed to work. It's best to edit or build the dive lot in-place in the specific town or save file you'll be playing in with some build cheats. Here are a few tutorial links that may help in editing and/or building a dive lot.

Re: Placing Dive Lots in Other Worlds
https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/forum/index.php?topic=16588.msg321562#msg321562

SimsVip - Creating Dive Lots
https://simsvip.com/sims-3-island-paradise-guide/creating-dive-lots/

Creating a Scuba Diving Lot
https://leealeesims3.wordpress.com/2017/08/14/creating-a-scuba-diving-lot/

Karrritz Tutorial - Build a Dive Lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQYREabahSE

Crinrict's article - Sim resets when exploring an underwater cave
https://sims3.crinrict.com/en/2013/06/sim-resets-when-exploring-a-underwater-cave.html 

See the spoiler in this post for more tutorial links on fixing terrain and building dive lots.

✽ Issue: My Save Has Too Many Sims?!

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While it's true that some Sims were deleted and added to the SV2020 save files, there shouldn't be too many Sims at the start of the save.

If you feel there's too many Sims in your save you can use MasterController to look over the population demographics.

Read more about it here.

✽ Issue: Sims stuck under front porch - Hart House - Troubleshooting Tips

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We aren't able to reproduce this specific issue/glitch. The best we can offer is some troubleshooting tips:

Resetting the lot, Resetting the Sim, Save lot to library, bulldoze current lot and replace with copy from the library. Move or replace items on the porch like the wall lights, planters, seating. Move door over to see if it happens again. If yes, try replacing the lot and/or exit the game and restart computer and game. Then try checking the lot again. 

There's a lot of factors that go into Sims and their routing paths. Jaga did say he did test for routing issues and whatnot, but we cannot totally prevent all routing issues.

As a reminder to if you use cheats, they can cause issues/glitches if not turned off after use and lead to needing to reset everything. Also playing for long periods of time with out restarting the game can cause issues/glitches like this.

✽ Issue: Sunset Valley 2020 - Crashing My Game

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Please read this post if you're game is crashing while loading an SV2020 save file.

[Jaga Telesin]

Using Sunset Valley 2020 in Challenges

Players wanting to use Sunset Valley 2020 in Challenges (rulesets and objectives setup by other players) should contact that Challenge's creator and ask for permission to do so.  We also recommend that they have the Challenge creator contact us here via PM if they want to ask any questions about the world(s) proposed for their Challenge.

Sunset Valley 2020 (both Vanilla and Chocolate) are re-creations of an upgraded version of the original Sunset Valley (v7.0 by Naga) that use all Expansions, though items/lots from all expansions aren't placed in the world.

Additionally, SV2020 does not use any custom content or store content that the player doesn't expressly add themselves.

For those reasons, we believe SV2020 to be highly suitable for use in *most* Challenges presented to TS3 players today.  Contact your Challenge creator and suggest they approve it for use in their challenge, or have them contact us to ask questions so they can.
 
 

[Jaga Telesin]

Exclusive Sims in SV2020
There's a few new households added:

Jaga Telesin
3 Sun Song Ave

Glenn Lockwood and Zelda Mae
9 Sun Song Ave
Myrtle house created by MrsFlynn

Nathan James and Yasmine Ferrari
28 Sim Lane
An original SV house, but slightly remodeled by MrsFlynn.

Haskell Family - Brendan, Audry, Joel, Jeremy, Andi
17 Maywood Lane

The Sims above are also in the Chocolate edition, except the Haskell family are at 16 Maywood Lane (old Bunch family house) and Nathan and Yasmine (Vampire) are at 58 Water Lily Lane in the Stylz house created by MrsFlynn

Howie Easton (Fairy) and Sheena E.
91 Landgraab Ave. (Jamie Jolina's old house) - this family is only in the Chocolate edition.


Family Information for Vanilla and Chocolate

Spoiler: Families in Vanilla (click to show/hide)

Landgraab
Geoffrey, Nancy, Malcom
Landgraab Estate 3Bds/4Ba
10 Summer Hill Court - 60x60 Lot
Funds: §73,259.

Alto
Nick, Vita, Holly
Villa Alto 2Bds/2.5Ba
20 Summer Hill Court - 60x60 Lot
Funds: §74,040.

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Wolff
Thorton and Morgana
Lone Wolff Manor 1Bds/4Ba
500 Sunnyside Blvd - 40x40 Lot
Funds: §24,406.

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Bird Sisters
Alouette, Oriole and cat Minette
Cormorant 3Bds/1.5Ba
180 Wright Way - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §15,000.

Schmidt
Benjamin and dog Ralston
Shearwater 1Bds/1Ba
120 Wright Way - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §3,500.

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Beached Dreams
Glenn Lockwood and Zelda Mae
Myrtle 2bds/2Ba
9 Sun Song Ave - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §4,872.

Frio
Jared, Connor
Ocean Vista Cottage 2Bds/2Ba
7 Sun Song Ave - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §925.

Ursine
Claire and unborn baby
Pescadero 2Bds/1.5Ba
5 Sun Song Ave - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §2,185.

Telesin
Jaga
Myrtle Bungalow 1Bds/1Ba
3 Sun Song Ave - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §3,052.

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Farmwell
Gladsten
Cottage Cheese 1Bds/1Ba
67 Water Lilly Lane - 30x30 Lot
Funds: §1,650.

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Maloney
Polly
Mosquito Cove 1Bds/1Ba
36 Sim Lane - 30x40 Wide Lot
Funds: §1,398.

James
Nathan James, Yasmine Ferrari
Cozy-Vanilla 2Bds/2Ba
28 Sim Lane - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §6,390.

Nix/Kennedy
Mike Nix, Annie Nix, Mara Nix and Erin Kennedy
Plus Plus 3Bds/3Ba
24 Sim Lane - 30x30 Lot
Funds: §4,000.

Bachelor
Simis, Jocasta, Michael, Bella
Greener & Greener 3Bds/3Ba
12 Sim Lane - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §3,024.

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Angelista
Lala, Tiara
Victor's Abode 2Bds/2.5Ba
306 Skyborough Blvd - 30x20 Wide Lot
Funds: §5,000.

Hart
Gus, Dorie, Bebe
Primrose 2Bds/2Ba
303 Skyborough Blvd - 30x40 Long Lot
Funds: §2,125.

Riffin
Calvin, Cornell, Chantrelle, and dog Dritz
Garden Cottage 2Bds/1Ba
373 Skyborough Blvd - 30x40 Long Lot
Funds: §4,000.

Goth
Gunther, Cornelia, Mortimer
Goth Manor 3Bds/3Ba
13 Skyborough Blvd - 60x60 Lot
Funds: §52,157.

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Roomies
Stiles McGraw, Tamara Donner, Emma Hatch, Cycl0n3 Sw0rd, Blair Wainwright
Cosmopolitan Lofts 5Bds/3Ba
2400 Pinochle Point - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §4,357.

Roommates Wanna Be
Alice Fitzgerald, Malcom Harris, Deedee Wynn (Witch), Haley Sumari
Condor Museum Lofts 4Bds/1Ba
2500 Pinochle Point - 40x40 Lot
Funds: §6,500.

Working Friends
Tori Kimura, Monica Morris, Ayesha Ansari, Madison VanWatson
Metropolitan Lofts 3Bds/2Ba
2450 Pinochle Point  - 30x20 Wide Lot
Funds: §4,158.

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Bunch
Jack, Judy, Ethan, Lisa, Arlo, Darlene
Peep's Peak 4Bds/4Ba
16 Maywood Lane - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §3,025.

Crumplebottom
Agnes
Modern Zen 2Bds/2Ba
15 Maywood Lane - 30x40 Long Lot
Funds: §25,000.

Haskell
Brendan, Audry, Joel, Jeremy, Andi
Capitola A 2Bds 1.5Ba
17 Maywood Lane - 30x40 Long Lot
Funds: §6,430.

Wainwright
Boyd and Susan
Minihaus 2Bds/1Ba
53 Maywood Lane - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §2,900.

Mixture of Good and Bad
Beau Merrick, Bianca Rubble, Lilly-Bo Chique, Marina Prattle
Modernehaus 3Bds/2Ba
65 Maywood Lane - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §7,500.

Keaton
Marty, Justine and unborn baby
"El" Urban Sprawl 2Bds/1Ba
60 Maywood Lane - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §4,225

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Jolina
Jamie
House Plan B 2Bds/1Ba
91 Landgraab Ave. - 30x20 Wide Lot
Funds: §3,000.

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Single Moms
Fiona McIrish, Molly French, River McIrish, Sandi French
Asilomar 3Bds/2Ba
330 Oak Grove Road - 30x30 Lot
Funds: §3,490.

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Dueling Singers
Sadie Mason, Rich Richmond, Mercedes May
Wagner's Repose 3Bds/3Ba
250 Redwood Pkwy - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §9,000.

Langerak
Iliana, Dustin, Parker, Kaylynn
Tilelicious 4Bds/3Ba
230 Redwood Pkwy - 30x40 Wide Lot
Funds: §4,400.

Unfettered with Feathers
Benni Hennessey, Zak Whipsnake, Hailey Sheperd and Kenji Midden
Ye Old Tutor - 3bds 2.5 Ba
130 Redwood Pkwy - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §7,000.

Spoiler: Families in Chocolate (click to show/hide)

Wolff (Werewolf Family)
Dwayne, Erica, Waylon, Wilhemina, Gator
Wolff Estates 3Bds/4Ba
10 Summer Hill Court - 60x60 Lot
Funds: §80,000.

Alto
Nick, Vita, Holly
Villa Alto 2Bds/2.5Ba
20 Summer Hill Court - 60x60 Lot
Funds: §74,040.

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Slayer
Elvira (Vampire)
Slayer Manor 1Bds/4Ba
500 Sunnyside Blvd - 40x40 Lot
Funds: §50,000.

Chandra/Loveland
Vallari, Gracie and Cat Babycakes
Unabriged 2Bds/2Ba - 40x40 Lot
455 Sunnyside Blvd
Funds: §19,058.

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Bird Sisters
Alouette, Oriole and cat Minette
180 Wright Way - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §15,000.

Schmidt
Benjamin and dog Ralston
Shearwater 1Bds/1Ba
120 Wright Way - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §3,500.

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Beached Dreams
Glenn Lockwood and Zelda Mae
Myrtle 2Bds/2Ba
9 Sun Song Ave. - 20x30 Long Lot
Funds: §4,872.

Frio
Jared, Connor
Ocean Vista Cottage 2Bds/2Ba
7 Sun Song Ave - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §925.

Ursine
Claire and unborn baby
Pescado 2Bds/1.5 Ba
5 Sun Song Ave - 30x20 - Long Lot
Funds: §2,185.

Telesin
Jaga (Witch)
Myrtle Bunglow 1Bd/1Ba
3 Sun Song Ave - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §3,000.

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Farmwell
Gladsten
Cottage Cheese
67 Water Lilly Lane - 30x30
Funds: §1,650.

James
Nathan James and Yasmine Ferrari (Vamp)
Stylz 3Bds/3Ba
58 Water Lilly Lane - 30x40 Wide Lot
Funds: §5,500.

Swain
Chester, Bailey
Flava-ful 2Bds/1Ba
43 Water Lilly Lane - 20x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §51,774.

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Maldano
Marigold (Fairy)
Mosquito Cove 1Bd/1Ba
28 Sim Lane - 30x40 Wide Lot
Funds: §6,500.

Nix/Kennedy
Mike, Annie, and Mara Nix and Erin Kennedy
Plus Plus 3Bds/2Ba
24 Sim Lane - 30x30 Lot
Funds: §4,000.

Bachelor
Simis, Jocasta, Michael, Bella
Greener and Greener
12 Sim Lane - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §3,024.

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Angelista
Lala, Tiara
Victor's Abode 2Bds/2.5Ba
306 Skyborough Blvd
Funds: §5,000.

Hemlock (Vampire Family)
Wogan, Morgan, Belisama
Garden Cottage 2Bds/1Ba
373 Skyborough Blvd - 30x40 Long Lot
Funds: §36,794.

Goth
Samuel (Ghost) Helen, Frida (Ghost), Olivia (Ghost)
Goth Manor 3Bds/3Ba
13 Skyborough Blvd - 60x60 Lot
Funds: §19,688.

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Roomies
Stiles McGraw, Tamara Donner, Emma Hatch, Cycl0n3 Sw0rd, Blair Wainwright
Cosmopolitan Lofts 5Bds/3Ba
2400 Pinochle Point - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §4,357.

Roommates Wanna Be
Alice Fitzgerald, Malcom Harris, Dee Wynn (Witch), Haley Sumari, Bebe Hart
Condor Museeum 4Bds 1Ba
2500 Pinochle Point - 40x40 Lot
Funds: §6,500.

Roommates Supernatural
Dante Morganthe (Vamp), Argus Brown (Werewolf), Violet Slymer (Ghost)
Metropolitan Lofts 3Bds/2Ba
2450 Pinochle Point - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §8,500.

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Haskell
Brendan, Audry, Joel, Jeremy, Andi
Peep's Peak 4Bds/4Ba
16 Maywood Lane - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §6,368.

MacDuff
Flint, Joanie, Jules, Joe, Faith, Felicity and unborn baby
Capitola A 2Bds/1.5Ba
17 Maywood Lane - 30x40 Long Lot
Funds: §8,500.

Roomates Vegan
Dayvid Muskgrave (Vamp), Branch Timbley (Fairy)
53 Maywood Lane - 30x20 Long Lot
Funds: §9,734.

Mixture of Good and Bad
Beau Merrick (Vamp), Bianca Rubble, Lilly-Bo Chique, Marina Prattle
Modernehaus 3Bds/2Ba
65 Maywood Lane - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §7,500.

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Easton
Howie Easton (Fairy), Sheena E.
House Plan B 2Bds/1Ba
91 Landgraab Ave. - 30x20 Wide Lot
Funds: §4,000

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Dueling Singers
Sadie Mason, Rich Richmond, Mercedes May
Wagner's Repose 3Bds/3Ba
250 Redwood Pkwy - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §9,000.

Crumplebottom Sisters
Bianca, Belinda, Beatrice
Tilelicious 4Bds/3Ba
230 Redwood Pkwy - 30x40 Wide Lot
Funds: §18,000.

Unfettered with Feathers
Benni Hennessey, Zak Whipsnake, Hailey Sheperd and Kenji Midden
Ye Old Tutor - 3bds 2.5 Ba
130 Redwood Pkwy - 40x30 Wide Lot
Funds: §7,000.

Spoiler: Families not in the SV2020 Saves (click to show/hide)

Agnes Crumplebottom - Is in Vanilla, but not in Chocolate.

Gobias Koffi

Pauline Wan and Hank Goddard

Iqbal, VJ, Miraj Alvi

Yumi, Leighton and Sam Sekemoto

Christopher Steel

Beau and Victoria Andrews

Buster, Bessie and Xander Clavell

 ✽ As a friendly reminder, If you want any of the missing families - load up an original Sunset Valley game and save them to the library, then place them into your SV2020 save file.

Need help with saving a household? See this post to save families to the library.

[Jaga Telesin]

- contingency reservation for expansion -

[RainaElf]

thank you for this! just snagged a copy.

[Jaga Telesin]

You're welcome RainaElf.  Looking forward to hearing how you like it after playing.   

[Turjan]

I had a look at these two versions of Sunset Valley, and I really liked what I saw. It's nice to have a version of SV that doesn't stray too far from its original character. Well done! I haven't really played anything yet though. Here are just a few remarks and questions that came up when I looked at the town.

Regarding the FAQ, it actually makes a difference if you use the fixed version of the SV world file with an old save that used the original version. While the routing fixes won't affect the old save, the altered terrain will, which results in buried roads (for example the road to Pinochle Pond or that at the original Science Facility) or height differences between roads and lots with terrain steps. It's better to switch out the world file when loading an old savegame, although this is more an aesthetic issue than a real problem.

Also, the NRaas mod is called Retuner, not Returner.

When I had that quick look at the world, I noticed a couple of minor glitches.

The dive bar has some floating artifacts (only visible from below). These can be removed with the hammer tool in build/buy mode.


At least for me, Sunnyside Strand had lots of floating roofs without supports, one of them glitching into railings:


I noticed the fusion lounge was sitting too low. Was this done because of routing issues? Otherwise, I'll just remove it to the library and replace it.

Regarding the stadium, does this have extra functions compared to the original?

I found the resort hotel already somewhat laggy without people on my somewhat ancient machine. It's looking great though . I have IP, but have never played there. Is it possible to replace all the towers by rugs (not a request, but a question)?

Oh, and is there a list of which residents are new? I haven't really played all worlds I have yet, so I'm not sure about which are new - aside from your simself  .

Anyway, this is all minor stuff, and I really like what I see and am looking forward to playing in this world. This looks like a labor of love  . Thanks!

[Jaga Telesin]

Thanks for the feedback Turjan!  I'll make the minor text corrections, and note in the FAQ that EllaCharmed's assumption about the .world file not altering older saves not being entirely correct.


To answer the other items:

- The Dive bar was done by Joria originally, but I can get in and see about correcting the artifacts.  They shouldn't impair routing at all in the meantime.


- Sunnyside Strand was an add-on property done by HappyASU09, that I didn't take any further except to fix some objects and theme some chairs.  I'll take a deeper look at the architecture and see if it needs fixing or rebuilding.  Mainly it exists in the world for the player to purchase and decorate.


- I see sims visiting the Fusion Lounge in test games, so it should be functional for now.  The slight dip on it is simply how it flattened out.  We can re-visit the lot placement and see if it can't be leveled better.  It won't affect pathing from what I've seen.


- We have a new version of The Royal Paradise Hotel in the works for distribution with SV2020 v2.0 in the future, but I'm confident it's play-worthy now.  I've spent a ton of time tweaking it and implementing subtle changes, but there are also some big ones like basement pool windows with digital fish!  I'll see if I can't make an upload copy of it available in the next few days.  It is a much improved version with less overhead and better pathing, and should run better on older machines.  It's version will simply be labeled v1.1 and it will be a file you can place in your Library folder and directly place in the world after bulldozing the old lot.

And to answer your question about it directly:  yes, you can demolish the Spanish style towers in the lower level and replace them with resort rugs easily.  As long as there's at least one rug or one tower, the resort will function just like you want it to.  More rugs means more visitors and higher profit - don't forget to upgrade them and turn on premium services for guests!


- The Stadium was simply copied in from another EA-Maxis world, and should have comparable functionality to the original.  It stays true to Naga's SV 7.0 version in that regard.


- MrsFlynn and I tossed around the idea of listing all the residents in each town, but it's a lot of information and we really wanted to get the worlds out early this January.  It might be a good project for us to distribute with the SV 2020 2.0 worlds however - I'll talk with her again and see if it's something one of us wants to compile.


We're also working on a website to host the worlds, though this topic will continue to be the primary one for the worlds and supporting them.

Glad to hear you're enjoying what you see!   

[Turjan]

Thank you very much for the answers!

Don't worry about descriptions of all the residents. I recognize those from Bridgeport and from Moonlight Falls, and some of the other names seem vaguely familiar. I was mostly interested in who the completely new ones are.

I reseated the Fusion Lounge:

The offset is 0.45, to save you from some guesswork.

Regarding the Sunnyside Strand, the situation proved to be a bit more complicated. I can see the supports from far away, but they disappear in build mode. At least for me. Weird.

I'm looking forward to seeing your new Resort Hotel. That's good news .

Thanks again.

[Jaga Telesin]

Thanks Turjan.  I should have version 1.1 of the Resort up by tomorrow evening at the latest.  And I'll include the Fusion Lounge height fix in 2.0 to be released later.

I'll still check out Sunnyside Strand, just to see if I can tell how it was constructed and if there are any issues to fix.  Certainly the staircase intersection if nothing else.

If you'd like a little teaser on the Resort revamp, I did an album of some screenshots to share with MrsFlynn..   Enjoy!     https://imgur.com/a/R7phJIu

[Turjan]

Those images are looking very good.

Just a comment on your FAQ changes regarding the different SV worldfiles: I must have not been very clear. The switch to ellacharmed's world doesn't affect routing in old saves, just like you originally quoted. What it changes is some ground elevation data. The lots stay where you placed them originally, but if the world elevation data change, you get lots of small seams, and at some places, the ground will be slightly higher than the roads where one or two lots drag it up. Or, in other words, it just looks ugly. That's why I switch world files when I switch saves. That's easy enough, as you just have to rename the files.

[Jaga Telesin]

Ah right - those seams are what EllaCharmed fixed (among other things).  They show up in regular Sunset Valley games.  Sounds like the .world file changes it so they are visually apparent.  Good to know it doesn't affect routing, I'll edit to note it.

Going to toss The Royal Paradise Hotel v1.1 up in a little bit. 

[Jaga Telesin]

Added a download link tonight for v1.1 of the Royal Paradise Hotel (a resort lot in SV2020).  It is just under the regular SV2020 download links in the main topic.

v1.1 of the resort lot has improved pathing, better room structure on the Entertainment floor, a new pool-viewing room with digital fish windows, some fixes for original author mistakes, and should give overall better performance.

Here's a screenshot album for the Resort.  An older version is already in SV2020's worlds, which this version is meant to replace.

[Jaga Telesin]

As an addendum, MrsFlynn let me know the default TS3 install locations so that people would know where to start if search isn't working (unless they did a custom install path of course):

• C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts - for the Disc Version
• C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games - for the Origin Version

After finding your install location for TS3, you'd want to browse to the folder that holds the original Sunset Valley.world file, typically under:  \The Sims 3\GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\Worlds