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Offline Franki

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Death Fails...
« on: June 20, 2017, 08:04:32 AM »
I have this NPC gardener who I added to my household to try and get rid of because they wouldn't leave on their own, but now they just won't die, I've hit them with every single death cheat and they still won't die... anyone got any ideas how I can kill them??
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2017, 08:39:34 AM »
Move him into his own home. Go into Manage Worlds and evict him, then delete him from the menu of played sims in Manage Households.

The reason I'm saying not to delete him from your own household is just because it may cause issues. The reason you evict first is otherwise the game will think the house is empty of furniture if you delete any sims directly while they are still living in a house and that could cause you issues later if you want any other sim to live there.

Anyway, this can all be done in game and doesn't actually require any cheats.

*Edited to add: the whole NPC gardener/handyman never leaving is a known bug. Not that this makes you any happier!
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2017, 09:04:43 AM »
Hmm, can't the gardener just be found and deleted from the manage households/not in the world menu? I know I found my butler there and was able to give her/him a makeover.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2017, 06:24:09 PM »
They can be Nindigo but Franki has already added him to her household.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2017, 06:38:25 PM »
Oh. Well, then the gardener can still be deleted from the 'manage households' - only picking the neighborhood and family instead of the 'not in the world' tab. I've often deleted Don from the Caliente household to prevent his clone from strolling about. Since I have him saved to my personal gallery.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2017, 09:30:38 PM »
I did try getting rid of the NPC from manage worlds but it wouldn't let me, had to add them to my household to try and kill them that way but that didn't quite work, they turned into a ghost and cycles through all the death moodlets but still no actual death.

Will do what Playalot said and hope that works.

Ah well at least it's a known bug, still annoying but at least it's known.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2017, 09:38:20 PM »
Finally it worked, had to move them to another household to then move them into their own one to finally be rid of them... will be clearing the cache and repairing my game after this..

Edit: spoke too soon, they returned as a new human gardener and now won't leave again...
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2017, 11:03:41 PM »
Finally it worked, had to move them to another household to then move them into their own one to finally be rid of them... will be clearing the cache and repairing my game after this..

Edit: spoke too soon, they returned as a new human gardener and now won't leave again...

Ok so let me get this straight. You have actually deleted this gardener from the game through the manage household menu? But now the game has basically resurrected the exact same sim to be an NPC gardener again? Have you tried getting this sims 'sim ID'? Be interesting to see what happens after deleting him again.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2017, 11:11:44 PM »
Finally it worked, had to move them to another household to then move them into their own one to finally be rid of them... will be clearing the cache and repairing my game after this..

Edit: spoke too soon, they returned as a new human gardener and now won't leave again...

Ok so let me get this straight. You have actually deleted this gardener from the game through the manage household menu? But now the game has basically resurrected the exact same sim to be an NPC gardener again? Have you tried getting this sims 'sim ID'? Be interesting to see what happens after deleting him again.


That is correct, spawned a new version of him after deleting through household management and three more gardeners including the one I had deleted appeared, it's sadly a known bug so added I've added it to the bug list..
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2017, 11:13:24 PM »
It is a known bug but deleting the sim entirely from the game should force the game to generate a new sim, not the exact same one again. Very weird. Get his sim ID and delete him again. And then get the new sims ID... just to satisfy my curiosity, if you have the time.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2017, 11:18:47 PM »
Deleted three times and he is the only one that returns to my lot after deletion, did try moving house as it was suggested on the bug list that it might help, instead he still follows me around appearing as an NPC gardener. After each deletion more NPC Gardeners appear.. I did clear cache and repair the game as well as a precaution but this pesky little bug doesn't want to play fair.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2017, 11:18:51 PM »
You probably saw this post on the EA Bug Thread from the EA Sims team but in case you didn't:

Hi all,
We are still investigating this issue.
Is anyone still encountering this issue happy to upload their save file(documents\electronicarts\thesims4\saves) as per the instructions here
What are the door locks set too and are the doors facing outwards or inwards?
Does anyone with the repairman issue in particular have a screen shot of what as to be repaired?
Thanks in advance for any information anyone can provided.


http://answers.ea.com/t5/The-Sims-4-Bug-Reports/OPEN-ServiceNPC-won-t-leave/td-p/3470325/page/14


Not sure if you can be bothered to go through the hassle but they are still taking uploads of games that this bug is occurring in.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2017, 11:20:55 PM »
Deleted three times and he is the only one that returns to my lot after deletion, did try moving house as it was suggested on the bug list that it might help, instead he still follows me around appearing as an NPC gardener. After each deletion more NPC Gardeners appear.. I did clear cache and repair the game as well as a precaution but this pesky little bug doesn't want to play fair.

Annoying thing is I had this bug months and months ago but now I can't remember the work arounds I did to fix it. Have you tried placing all these random NPC gardeners etc into a household and then playing them? This should force the game to remove them from their service roles.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2017, 11:46:13 PM »
Not yet, but I shall try that next

Edit: no luck at all, new gardeners kept appearing... took the drastic step of getting rid of the garden and still new gardeners appear.
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Re: Death Fails...
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2017, 07:20:42 PM »
Gah! Sounds like that particular game save is just bugged beyond belief re:NPC service sims. Can you save your controlled sims and houses to your library and start a new game with them all maybe?
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