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Offline Summers

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Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« on: March 30, 2016, 04:29:45 PM »
I had a childish young adult sim ..maybe in spring last year. I don't remember exactly what he would be able to do but I still remember he was able to talk with a big teddy bear and a doll house. In case of the children, they can raise up the social skill through talking to the big doll if I remember correctly. So I'm curious any childish young adult sims can level up charisma skill faster with talking to a big doll. Would you share your good experiences with me? :) It's a bit hard to level up fast with talking continuously. Maybe should I send him to night club or lounge community lots and have him talk with other sims tending bar? He has level 7 at mixlology.
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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2016, 04:39:23 PM »
Talking naturally with other sims is a good way, but also, have him go to the mirror, psych himself up (to get confident) then have him practice storytelling in the mirror.  That raises charisma.  I can't answer about the talking to the big dolls because I haven't had a childish Sim in a while XD



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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2016, 07:34:26 PM »
I have a vague memory of someone saying that Very Happy gives the quickest boost to learning charisma skill... @Nutella  was it you? Apart from that, what shewolf13 said.  :)
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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2016, 07:40:52 PM »
Yes.  Very happy gives the largest boost to charisma skill.  Lots of players think it is very confident, but for some weird programming reason, EA made very happy better than very confident for charisma.

I never found childish trait to increase the speed, although if you have completed the social childhood aspiration you get a boost to charisma learning skill.

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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2016, 07:58:49 PM »
@Nutella

So, is happy better than confident? Or is it only when we're talking the very stage?

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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2016, 08:18:14 PM »
Yes. 

Happy better than Confident.
Very Happy better than Very Confident.
Happy vs Very Confident (never tested just happy vs very confident, not sure about this one).


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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2016, 08:22:13 PM »
Here is an old post from Darkwalker.  My testing is for skilling speed only, which confirms by darkwalker (he/she had access to the tuning files).

Nice work. Nutella did a little of her own research and found that Happy had a slight better impact on Charisma skilling than Confident.

Well, those are just the adjustments to effective skill level. Each moodlet (and the emotions are basically not-so-hidden moodlets) can also change how fast skills increase.

Specifically, from the tuning files, Happy increases Charisma gains by 25%, and Elated by 40%. Confident and Fearless both boost Charisma gains, but by only 10%.

In other words, if you are going for successful interactions, Confident is better than Happy, and Fearless better than Elated. But if going for skilling speed the opposite is true.



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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 03:41:36 AM »
Oh  then how do u make sim very happy? I saved the very happy picture as a memory but it just makes sim happy.
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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 04:43:40 AM »
You need +8 to make the sim very happy.  Here is an example of my sim:

Loves Outdoor +2 happy
Renewed Vows from marriage +3 happy
Environment +3 happy

Any combination as long as it adds up to +8 your sim will be in very happy emotion.  Just make sure you don't have other emotion (like inspired or focus) mixed it, because happy is non-dominant and other emotions are dominant. 

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Re: Does 'childish trait' help for charisma skill?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2016, 08:23:03 AM »
Thank you :D Yeah I understand what you said.  I can try to disable all other emotional auras. :)
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