The Sims 4 Immortal Dynasty Challenge

[Nutella]

Yes.  As long as those aspirations are unique to the heir, you can complete them at teen/YA/adult/elder life stage.

[Nettlejuice]

Oh, thank you! I forgot to ask before then my teen achieved all her aspiration goals and left me in a panic. I'll remember to ask questions frequently now 

[EtnaFan666]

Well Dynasties = bloodline and natural pregnancies. It's not that the team is making any kind of social statement on gays because we're not.

I understand how it is, Metro. When you commit to the Immortal Dynasty, or any Dynasty(hint hint: Please put up another Dynasty challenge soon!  The Life States Dynasty was my favorite challenge in TS3, but I know you can't do it now because we haven't gotten any expansions yet so please let us know when the next challenge is coming! ), you must make compromises or sacrifice things that you like to follow the rules - I would love to have a wedding park in Oasis Springs, but I can't do that because rules say that the home lot is the only lot you can have a wedding arch in because editing other lots is banned.

Gay marriages are fine early on because you have room but once you hit Generation 5, you have to limit additions which will add more immortals(aka true weddings and pregnancies) and once you hit Gen 7, if you have a boy, you have to give them a sex change so they can get pregnant outside of wedlock, and Gen 8 can't have any babies at all! I can see why some Immortal Dynasties have the final Immortal become gay, because if they can't be pregnant anyways, the closest romance you'll have is a boyfriend or girlfriend.

But when the challenge ends, you'll sit back and take a snapshot of all eight of your old-as-dirt immortals sitting in a line before their house, smiling because "You're done, congrats." And if you're going for HoF(I never do because I can never get over using testingcheats to keep needs up  ) you'll get your picture in the Hall of Fame and join the ranks of the Elite. So, as one Youtuber would say, "We're playing for high stakes - risky business for risky rewards." 

[Dellena]

We're allowed to use the parks as cemetaries.  I was wondering, just asthetic reasons alone, can we create a little area in the part for the headstones?  Seems really lonely them just sitting on the grass alone.  Just a bit of fencing and plants/flowers?  Nothing game breaking or anything like that.   Just to be a bit more respectful to the dead.  I know I wouldn't have buried my own mother, rest her soul, just out in some grass by herself.

[Nettlejuice]

I always did feel a bit mean for not letting heirs have same sex relationship but I've never been past gen 7 in TS3 but reading Trip's Eight Ways has shown me you can do it without adding to the household.

@Dellena It most probably won't be. I'm happy keeping graves on my lot, for some reason Geoffrey Landgraabs visits every other night and the rest of the ghosts are happy if they show up once a week.

[Joria]

What happens when you "Release spirit to the netherworld"?  I just had Bella Goth die 4 times and be resurrected by pleading with Grim 3 times.  Now she's gone, her tombstone is in the park, but I want to know if she becomes a ghost there or if releasing her spirit means all that is left is a tombstone.  My dynasty family won't be the same without her there.

Did you ever notice that if Grim hangs around in a house chatting with folks everything starts to break and you can't do things like cook or get a meal?

[Shewolf13]

Joria, I don't know if you knew this, but I'm pretty sure pleading with Grim is illegal in the ID...

And I do believe that releasing the spirit leaves only the tombstone.

[sdhoey]

Unless I'm missing it somewhere, there's nothing in the rules or the changes made that says pleading with grim is banned. But we can wait to hear from the mods on this.

[Joria]

Unless I'm missing it somewhere, there's nothing in the rules or the changes made that says pleading with grim is banned. But we can wait to hear from the mods on this.

I didn't see anything in the rules about it.  You just can't use youth potion or life enhancing stuff.  In any case, they only live one day longer if they are dying of old age.

[Shewolf13]

Pleading to Grim is essentially life extention IMO. So, the answer is no. But, let's see what the other team members say.

This is from page 6 or 7, after I had asked about pleading.

[sdhoey]

It's on page 9 it's a definite no-no from all. Sorry   

[dethdukk]

Yeah, I asked the same thing a while back and was told that pleading/using death flowers are both considered life extensions.

[Joria]

Yeah, I asked the same thing a while back and was told that pleading/using death flowers are both considered life extensions.

True for mortal non-family members, or just for dynasty members?

[dethdukk]

Is it okay to beg for life when a non-dynasty household Sim dies?  The standard action, not with deathflower.

That's life extension in my opinion which is not allowed for any household member. Let's see what the other team members say too.

I just went through the past replies, it looks like this was asked before and got the same answer.  It should be clarified in the rules.

It should be, but I agree with Metro. It's life extension no matter the circumstances.

Here's what I asked for and got in response on page 25.  I think (yet again...) that this should be clarified in the rules.  Given that it's been asked at least 3 times now it's safe to assume that some people don't naturally think of pleading with grim as a life extension.

My recommendation... move this line: "Household members cannot complete the Bodybuilder Aspiration, use Potions of Youth, Essence of Life (from cowplant), Book of Life (from writing skill), or any other methods of extending life." to the general rules section so it's not buried elsewhere, and modify it to:  "Household members cannot complete the Bodybuilder Aspiration, use Potions of Youth, Essence of Life (from cowplant), Book of Life (from writing skill), attempt to prevent grim from reaping a Sim in any way, or any other methods of extending life.  The sole exception is giving ambrosia to dynasty heirs, described below."

[Joria]

Here's what I asked for and got in response on page 25.  I think (yet again...) that this should be clarified in the rules.  Given that it's been asked at least 3 times now it's safe to assume that some people don't naturally think of pleading with grim as a life extension.

My recommendation... move this line: "Household members cannot complete the Bodybuilder Aspiration, use Potions of Youth, Essence of Life (from cowplant), Book of Life (from writing skill), or any other methods of extending life." to the general rules section so it's not buried elsewhere, and modify it to:  "Household members cannot complete the Bodybuilder Aspiration, use Potions of Youth, Essence of Life (from cowplant), Book of Life (from writing skill), attempt to prevent grim from reaping a Sim in any way, or any other methods of extending life.  The sole exception is giving ambrosia to dynasty heirs, described below."

I agree, dethdukk.  Meanwhile I'm going to wait for a final say so from the team members before I once again restart this dynasty.  I'd gotten quite a bit done and not sure I'd even bother to redo a dynasty after so many attempts, and then a possible failure for something not specifically mentioned in the rules.  I do read and re-read the rules but I simply don't have time to troll through every post to find something obscure.  I guess my argument against it being a game breaker is the fact you only get ONE DAY of extended life  and there isn't a whole lot they could do that would seriously affect the game play or challenge in one day.  If it was for the spouse of the founder or heir it would be different but for a random household member I don't think it would matter.  Or I could merely play it out and once again not make the HOF.