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« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2010, 05:34:51 PM »
Alright, had a chance to work on it as soon as I posted my last reply, so here it goes.

Backyard



Backyard with roof up (i put a floor on the sun room!)


Front yard



Front yard, different angle (sorry about the shadows, I let time slip away from me)




I am pleased but not super happy still.  I still feel very awkward, maybe it is just the choices of vegetation.  I keep thinking I wish I had ornamental grasses.  But you guys are amazing with the choices that are there.  I can't wait to hear your thoughts.
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« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2010, 06:51:08 PM »
It looks really good.  Maybe on one part of the hill, they have that flowered grass covering, that is always nice, especially on a hill.  You did a good job, because I have never been able to build on a slope, so will try what TommyT suggested and see what I come up with.  Good job.
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« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2010, 07:10:12 PM »
I think you've done some beautiful changes and Aria's suggestion about the flower terrain paint on the hill is a great one.  Are you certain that it's the landscaping that's not sitting right with you?  Take a step back and look it over and try to think of a word that sticks out in your mind to describe how you feel about it. 
Sparse?  The landscaping certainly isn't sparse, but the house being such a large white blank canvas could be part of it.  This could be remedied adding a few windows, even side by side, changing the window style or color, or by breaking up some of the white by using the hipped roof over top the existing roof but pulled one tile short of the front of the house (to avoid the overhang) since there's a gap between your gables.
Also, the majority of your vegetation is right up along the houseline making the tree seem lonely.  Does he need a friend?  Maybe a single shrub or a bushy type flower?
Finally, the backyard is beautiful and you've gone through a lot of trouble to make that sun room.  Should they have more to do outside than sit on the bench?  Maybe a grilling patio with table and chairs? Perhaps a fire pit? There's so much to do outside for Sims and creating "pockets" of interest can help fill in the landscaping nicely.
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« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2010, 10:36:52 PM »
I think you are right, I might be my choices in paint and windows. I am going to have to play with it.  I am not sure how to do the roof though.  I will have to watch a few how to videos.  I did make that roof myself since the auto roof was even worse.  I have said it before but this house building and landscaping stuff is hard (for me at least).  Thank you for your comments.  I will try the flower paint out on one of the hills. 

@saltypaws I built my house using TommyT's guide article!  This is my first house building experience.  I just wish there was an article on how to choose good exterior paint with some samples I could "borrow".  I am not inclined to be artistic.  At all.

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« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2010, 11:31:14 PM »
I am so wrapped up with this dynasty and work, will probably get to the house eventually or just get the one off the exchange he put on there, lol.  There are so many good ideas out there.
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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2010, 11:37:59 AM »
gerrr there are some paint ideas to fool around with that I have discovered.  I frequently use that recolor tool, can't remember the name of it.  There are some paints, or maybe wall papers, that have a different bottom and top.  The bottom is usually a wood plank, similar to what you have used in your house.  If you drag the wood plank up to the flat area it becomes "siding" for much less cost, and can be colored any shade of wood or paint you want it to be.  I think part of what is distracting for me is the wood you used.  It looks too flat and too much like flooring, especially since you used the same wood for the floor over the sun room.

A personal "cheat" I use is I browse the different neighborhoods and if I find a wall paper, paint, exterior I like, using that same recolor tool, I save the design I like in my favorites, (the heart icon), or in paint, paper, etc.  Then I can incorporate the same design in my own home.  Doing this actually has helped me learn how to use that tool better and has given me ideas of my own for recolors/redesigns.

On the floor over the sun room, if you add a bit of fencing around it, it will feel more comfortable and finished.  I keep getting a bit of vertigo thinking my Sim would fall right off that.  Add the fencing, a couple of lounge chairs, perhaps a table between with an umbrella on the table or a patio lamp, or even add an easel or telescope.  That fair folk love seat you used below could also work up there.  Add some of the house plants you used IN the sun room, ON the sun room around that love seat.  That particular love seat screams for more plants around it.

Something else that hits me is the chimney smack dab in the middle of the front of the roof.  You can't see it from the outside of the house itself so it feels a bit awkward and leads to the vertical look of the lines of the house and roof.  That vertical look is enhanced by the windows also.  Try windows that lay more horizontally, or are a bit more square.
Nothing wrong with using big, wide, windows on the rest of the house as you did with the sun room.  Not as many of course.  I think the narrowness of the windows you used  in the rest of the house is the difficulty.

The tree or trees I see feel lonesome.  Can you move them to the corner of the house or cluster three together?  They can be different elevations.

By the way, I liked the hydrangeas.  Yes, they could have been moved a bit so they weren't quite such a straight line but I liked the color.  Sometimes when I'm using them I tend to go overboard with them! 

When you are doing trees, or even something like the hydrangeas, try keeping a visual triangle in mind.  Like, take a V and put a tree at each point, or a shrub at each point.  You can put a bench or sculpture in the open end of that V and fill in gaps with some terrain paint AND smaller shrubs, flowers or grasses.  There aren't many grass types besides pampas grass and bull rushes but they and the lavender often work.  I'll try to remember to do a few and put up the photos.

In general, your house was pretty cool and has given you a great opportunity to learn all this new stuff.  I still struggle to learn and remember tips I get here, (I have post it notes all over my pc!), so in general I'd say you did a great job and obviously are brave enough and willing enough to try all the things the folks here have mentioned.  Kudos!
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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2010, 12:56:49 PM »
Ok, here's some examples of that V idea.




I started in Edit town mode and just placed three Aspens, one large, two small in a sort of lopsided V, shown above.  Then I added the Fair Folk love seat.



Next was some shrubs/flowers, some terrain paint, a table and a light.  This overhead bird's eye view doesn't reall show the trees except for the shadows of them but I wanted you to see how I placed the shrubs "casually".  Nothing really totally lined up.  I added the terrain paint "path" and ground under the love seat since I don't care for the dirty ground look when plants die under a darkened area.



A different view showing the trees, bench, etc.



Then I changed things around a bit to show a different way of using that same technique.




In this last view you see I've made it almost more formal, or it could become more formal with some hedges and straighter paths lined on each side by hedges.  It has become a sculptor's garden and still a quiet place to sit and enjoy the view.  You could change it even more by placing a fountain where the statue of Gloria is and maybe not having the other sculptures, or just use a nice tumble of rocks in the center area with a few more grassy type flowers poking through and around it.

Hope this helped gerroo

Edit:  I forgot to mention in the first rendition I used 15 plant items, not including terrain paint.  In other words, an UNEVEN number.  In the second I used 21 plants, again and uneven number.  For some reason uneven numbers are more pleasing to the eye.
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« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2010, 01:18:49 PM »
Wow, those are beautiful ideas!  I will go back to the house soon.  Real life has taken the front seat for right now.  Can't wait to try it out.  I definitely am going to change the love seat area.  I know I am going to add plants/flowers around the base of my trees.  I hid the chimney inside a wall in the house.  Whats your opinion on this,should I have it on the outside and keep the windows?  Or leave the chimney where it is and use different windows?  Or something else?  I would like to know. 
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« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2010, 01:50:51 PM »
I just adapted a floor plan I found online to make a legacy house. It needs landscaping in front, and I would love to see some ideas or examples of the look I'm going for. I love the wild cottage garden that Samoht designed (the second one HERE), and would like to see some areas like that, but with an asian/zen/contemporary twist. I don't want all asian cliche, but rather a melding of zen and wild, asian and cottage, clean and cluttered, not structured. I'm especially terrible at placing paths from the street to the front door (I tend to make a beeline from mailbox to door), and would love to see something more meandering.

It's on a 40x40 lot, and intended to be a legacy house. I'll be interior decorating as I go.


Of particular note is the entrance area, where there is an office (in front) and dining room with glass walls, looking out to what I hope will be a stunning view leading to the front door.


If this interests someone, I'd love to see what you come up with. No need to duplicate the house, but it would be nice if the front houseline and entry were designated as you see them.

Is there some way to make a smooth diagonal foundation line? I fiddled around forever with that, with no luck.
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« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2010, 01:53:20 PM »
Wow, those are beautiful ideas!  I will go back to the house soon.  Real life has taken the front seat for right now.  Can't wait to try it out.  I definitely am going to change the love seat area.  I know I am going to add plants/flowers around the base of my trees.  I hid the chimney inside a wall in the house.  Whats your opinion on this,should I have it on the outside and keep the windows?  Or leave the chimney where it is and use different windows?  Or something else?  I would like to know. 

Boy, I sure know about Real Life interfering!  Sim Life is so much more fun!

Personally, I like seeing the entire chimney outside of the house.  If you were making a mansion where there were several interior rooms that had fireplaces it would be different.  But just one chimney poking up out of nowhere looks a bit odd to me.  Why not try both ways?  We do have that lovely "do over" button!  I use it a lot!
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« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2010, 02:01:49 PM »
I just adapted a floor plan I found online to make a legacy house. It needs landscaping in front, and I would love to see some ideas or examples of the look I'm going for. I love the wild cottage garden that Samoht designed (the second one HERE), and would like to see some areas like that, but with an asian/zen/contemporary twist. I don't want all asian cliche, but rather a melding of zen and wild, asian and cottage, clean and cluttered, not structured. I'm especially terrible at placing paths from the street to the front door (I tend to make a beeline from mailbox to door), and would love to see something more meandering.

It's on a 40x40 lot, and intended to be a legacy house. I'll be interior decorating as I go.


Of particular note is the entrance area, where there is an office (in front) and dining room with glass walls, looking out to what I hope will be a stunning view leading to the front door.


If this interests someone, I'd love to see what you come up with. No need to duplicate the house, but it would be nice if the front houseline and entry were designated as you see them.

Is there some way to make a smooth diagonal foundation line? I fiddled around forever with that, with no luck.

Yes, you can make a smooth foundation line at a diagonal.  When you go to the foundation tool,  there are two pictures to the left side in it.  The top one is for a straight line foundation, the bottom is for diagonal.
Start your diagonal line just slightly in front of the end of the straight foundation you already laid and draw your tool up, (inside the house), and to the right.  It should snug up and fill in any gaps.

I'd love to do your landscaping for this.  Those big windows are perfect for viewing that Zen garden you mentioned!  It's easier for me if I can do it with the house in place, at least the lower floor.  Is it possible to give me a link to it?  My head is buzzing with ideas.  Any price limitation?
My own dynasty house is terrible at the moment but we've only just begun and funds are still limited.
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« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2010, 05:05:42 PM »
This is a brand new legacy, no buns even in the oven yet. I'm not sure how to save the house for uploading without evicting the family. I'd love to see your ideas!
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« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2010, 05:13:53 PM »
Go into Edit Town Mode, then select your lot and save it to the library. Now you can either just upload the household with the house or start a new game, place the household + house and evict the family to get a house without the family.

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« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2010, 05:24:48 PM »
Thanks! I fixed the diagonal foundation and uploaded the house here. http://www.thesims3.com/assetDetail.html?assetId=3073400  If it's not a hassle, please note how much is spent and I'll treat it like a loan to my legacy that I'll have them pay off.

The walls inside the house are tentative, with plans for a master suite, etc. in the future. I just wanted to get some basic layout done. I'm telling you, this novice builder had a tough time translating the real life house plans into the sim world, with less flexibility for diagonal placement, etc! As always, I learned a lot by doing.

And my compliments to our landscaping gurus for the gorgeous examples and fabulous tips!

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« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2010, 11:57:58 PM »



Tutorial Photo Tip: Use the Cheat fadeobjects off to stop trees and shrubbery fading, it helps get close-ups.


Thank you Samoh!  I did not know that and will put one more post it note on the pc now. lol  That probably would have worked in my disappearing staircase too, huh?
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