Mean Spirited: The King of Mood Traits?

[Noobertuber]

Most people don't put much thought to this trait. Instead, they take overemotional, and that is a good trait, what with increasing all moodlets by 25%. However, mean spirited is better. Let's look at its advantages:

1. Gets a +10 moodlet when near an enemy.
2. Wins fights 40% more often (Except against mean, brave, or evil sims).
3. Has more "mean" interactions.

These don't make it very good, right? However, there is a fourth one (Maybe it should be added to the guide?). Namely, for every single enemy the mean spirited sim has, it gains +5 permanant mood! (Or at least until the enemy sim isn't an enemy, or dies). Making another sim your enemy is quite easy. Merely a rude introduction, then declare nemesis. (A few 100 point wishes or so may appear) This stacks up very quickly. I once made a sim with about 25 enemies. +125 permenant mood boost, all the time. He never had to do anything to help his mood again, Outstanding mood work metrics, etc. What are your thoughts?

[Metropolis Man]

This is interesting. I've played a mean Sim just briefly for kicks — nothing serious...just to check out fighting and insulting for laughs. I had no idea about the permanent mood boost. So, is there a visible moodlet that ties in to that boost? How exactly do you know about this permanent boost if there isn't a moodlet?

[kiiopp]

I'm convinced that Kleptomaniac is still the best 

[Noobertuber]

Yes, it is an invisble mood boost, akin to grumpy's mood debuff. If you look closely enough at your sims mood when you make an enemy, you will notice the boost.

[twrdrockfan]

Had to test this one, so I ran up a character.
Traits: Evil, Mean Spirited, Genius, Ambitious, Athletic
At each count, I used the cheats to max his needs and clear out all moodlets except Having A Blast and Squeaky Clean  that refresh themselves immediately. Here are my results, labeled with the number of enemies made at that point.

So, count me convinced. That is a pretty cool little benefit.

[jestina]

I'd rather not make loads of enemies just to get mood up. There are better ways to go about it than that.

[Castastic]

I'd rather not make loads of enemies just to get mood up. There are better ways to go about it than that.

But hey, it's fun and easy to be mean-spirited! Not that I play those sims often, if at all. But I imagine it'd be easy to gain enemies if you have neighbors + minor (Ambitions EP) . And just keep calling their mama a llama. 
But yeah, even so I must agree with you a bit. Mood boosts don't do all that much for me generally, I just love playing my sims and seeing them grow (or not grow).  But it is a big plus to know you actually get mood boosts from having enemies as a mean-spirited sim, I really want to try having a mean-spirited sim to play with! And paired with kleptomaniac, it'd be awesome.

[Pam]

Do I smell possible challenge strategies?  Or even an idea for a challenge in 2011? 

[jestina]

You know, one new way to gain enemies is to have your house in the middle of town, get one of those mining things and run it late at night. 

[twrdrockfan]

That just makes them dislike you. The buff comes from declaring them as a nemesis.

[Metropolis Man]

Do I smell possible challenge strategies?  Or even an idea for a challenge in 2011? 

I don't think so. Might be a little boring to simply walk around town an make as many enemies as possible. It would need a different twist on it — like the Romantic Interests Challenge where things have to be done in a given order. Might couple max enemies with something in the Criminal Career.

[Swede1992]

How do we know then that the permanent mood boost is +5? Is it possible to see that somewhere?

[MomOfMany]

Do I smell possible challenge strategies?  Or even an idea for a challenge in 2011? 

I can see it being a good strategy for one in particular challenge if you are lucky enough to get a mean-spirited sim.

[twrdrockfan]

I don't know exactly how much +5 is in the bar, but all the bars in that pic I posted were identical conditions except for how many enemies I had made when I snapped the pic for each one.

As for a challenge, how about a yin/yan type one:
Max out charisma, but for every friend, you must make an enemy too.

I don't know, I am not very good at sticking to things with the sims, so challenges are way out of my expertise.