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Will they fix Martial Arts?
« on: July 11, 2010, 03:05:14 PM »
Okay, this ability is really cool... looking? But besides that, it's ridiculous. I haven't gone on alot of missions or used it to fight mummies, but I'm guessing that is the only practical use for it. But anyway, it's sorta frustrating when you have Disciplined, maxed Athletics, Mean Spirited, Evil, can beat the crap out of anyone easily (I have never lost a single normal dust cloud brawl and most people hate my character), maxed Martial Arts, blah blah and you go to spar with some low ranking belt and lose? Huh? How does a newbie beat a Sim Fu master. I have even maxed all the Martial Arts special stuff like Meditation and board breaking. I guess they feel this is balanced or they'd have adjusted it by now, but I contrast this against Logic skill and Chess. In Martial Arts even if you max everything and have the best traits your tournament attempts will be full of losses to lowbies. If you max logic, have genius, etc. In my last game I lose 2 times total and am a Chess Master. And now with master logic I can tutor and do numerous other things.

Just sort of disappointing. If only they would let you beat people up with Sim Fu, It'd all be worth it. ;p Or maybe, as an evil guy, fight to the death. Ambitions expansion version 2 should have expanded Criminal path of Assassin with master thief cloths, etc.

Btw - Thanks to this site for the evil guild. I have built a house of horrors similar to this site and do fist pumps and high fives with my evil children with our pools of death and fire traps and rooms with locked doors and glass panels for observation. I teleport in and beat the crap out of em for entertainment while I watch them stave, meditating, or pumping Iron. The guide was funny :D.

 

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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 06:39:21 PM »
Okay, this ability is really cool... looking? But besides that, it's ridiculous. I haven't gone on alot of missions or used it to fight mummies, but I'm guessing that is the only practical use for it...

...Just sort of disappointing. If only they would let you beat people up with Sim Fu, It'd all be worth it. ;p Or maybe, as an evil guy, fight to the death.

C'mon. Let's do a reality check. Sims is rated T. If you want to go Mortal Combat on your pixelated victims...then play Mortal Combat.



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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 06:45:08 PM »
It does tell us while loading that the true martial artist is NOT into violence.
I personally like the ability to meditate and zenporting. I don't think the martial arts skill needs 'fixing'

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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2010, 07:14:07 PM »
Maybe it's Karma.

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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 09:31:37 PM »
I love martial arts!  It's one of my favourite skills - it's about the only one that I find fun to watch.  In tournaments, your sim's success is directly related to how much time they have spent sparring.  They may have spent many hours on the training dummy or board breaker, but sparring practice is what helps them win sparring contests.  If your sim keeps losing tournaments, have them train someone at home so they have someone to spar with between trips to China.

Of course, I've had a lot of sims live on the gems they got from breaking space rock blocks.  And zeneporting can be very useful at times.  Yes, I think martial arts is just fine as is.
 
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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 02:47:45 AM »
Yeah, breaking blocks is a major feature to me. Zeneporting can be really helpful when adventuring, too. It synergizes well with Ambitions' Private Investigator profession as you can just beat the information out of them. It's level with the other skills in terms of what it brings to the table, I think.

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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 12:54:41 PM »
You can't win sparring matches unless you do a lot of sparring.  In your skill journal it will say the number of sparring matches you have taken part in, if that number is high you will win almost every fight.  Work towards completing the skill Challenge that requires you to combat in 75 sparring matches, once you're done with that challenge you will be able to win almost every fight.



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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 01:42:29 PM »
"C'mon. Let's do a reality check. Sims is rated T."

I remember Oblivion was rated T until some modder found an inaccessible nude texture hidden away in the construction set and there was that whole controversy. There have been alot of teen games with more violence than this. They could push it some. Especially considering what some of the M rated games are doing these days. Push it, or drop the alternate "Evil" path as it seems totally lackluster.

You can fight people already and be a general jerk in several ways. Why not let evil sims abuse Sim Fu's teaching and beat people up with it? Karate Kid (New or old) the story of people abusing what is defensive skills. My guy is evil, nevermind that whole morality thing. He'll exploit any and all ways to raise a ruckus.

Assassination - Okay, we'll never see this in Sims 3, but I don't see why not. It's sort of annoying. They have the "Evil" path and you can't do enough. Donate to undermine a charity? Really?

It does imply that you should kill someone, or get your thrills off on their deaths at the least, "See so and so's ghost."

Also, isn't there a lifetime wish, Gold Digger, or maybe something else which your goal is to hook up with a rich sim then see them die prematurely?

For criminal Ambitions they'll probably just add some home invasion thing, which could be alot of fun anyway.

I turned off aging and decided to give firefighting a whirl and it seems pretty solid, if a bit rough on the family life, not to mention rife with opportunities for sadists. Stand around while houses burn down. Drive to the homes with people trapped inside, brawl the person complaining about their house(if it lets you..I'll have to try that today), then just drive away, etc. I did drive home once after surveying the scene and seeing it was someone that annoyed me earlier. Got a report that since I'm a professional slacker it was all good. My character isn't that far along yet, just putting out fires, but even seeing people distressed about their homes burning has him fiendishly delighted more than anything. I also need to have some children with that hidden trait I read about. Evil pyromaniacs without the need to cook up a mass fire? Oooooh yeah!

Martial arts as a skill doesn't seem right to me. I guess I'm in the minority, but like I said, with logic I checked my stats and, as a Grandmaster, have lost 2 times my entire sims life! With Sim Fu, I had a live in girlfriend, Dilly, that eventually drowned in an unfortunate pool accident, but before that I had mastered Sim Fu completely. Did the board breaker challenge, meditation for hours (Does that help in a fight to meditate first?) and began training her for a live in sparring partner. I won more than her, but I still lost 2/5th of the time. I lost to her even as she was low ranking belt.

That'd be like Fedor finding some random newbie fighter and getting beat up by him. Come on. I can't wait to go to China for the tournament. I read alot of them have the Disciplined trait, which Dilly did not.

I guess this is so that you can participate in the tournament at lower belts and actually win some. It still doesn't feel like you're the "Master" of anything, arg.

The rest of the skills are okay I suppose. Meditation has been handy from time to time for stress. Rock Splitting as a money maker? There has got to be a more productive use of time.

Like I said, I do agree that the Martial Arts animations are extremely cool, especially with two Sim Fu masters. So much better than the stupid dust cloud. I just want to use it more. > : )

Fully patched with WA, HELS, Ambitions I had a Texas Chainsaw massacre barn on a premade lot that I built up similarly to this sites evil guide. Unforunately while meditating in front of the glass wall, starving someone, they finally croaked and the reaper showed up. He was milling around outside for awhile until the ghost just vanished, glitching her to forever wander my lot. I created 2 rooms and setup a sofa after this in the middle, so as to read books and whatnot, watching two at once. They would not die no matter what, ahh! They need an autosave cycle overhaul in this game.

I did get to see the Reaper's goofy antics finally, playing this evil guy. After someone drowned he walked into my basement and started perusing a bookshelf. Vanished before I could befriend him much though. It's pretty hilarious to tell the reaper a joke and have you both gafawing and knee slapping like it's nothing out of the ordinary.

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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2010, 07:30:32 PM »
The rest of the skills are okay I suppose. Meditation has been handy from time to time for stress. Rock Splitting as a money maker? There has got to be a more productive use of time.

If you consider "productive" to be making money, then breaking space rock blocks is one of the best ways.  Tiberium comes fairly often from breaking space rocks and it's worth around $40,000 after it transforms to a large spire cut.  However, if you feel being productive is something other than making money, then I can understand you point.

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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 02:31:49 AM »
Thanks for the welcome.

Breaking space rocks - I really don't know what I'm doing with any of that. I just did the board breaking to get the skill bonus and randomly experimented with a few gem cuts. None of which seemed worthwhile. Apparently I was way off the mark. I'll have to see what this site says about it.

I probably should ask this elsewhere, but I had a couple of fishing questions since you had said in another post about stocking your own pond. I stocked about 30 Deathfish, 30 Angelfish and more and haven't noticed any change in the quality of the fishing description. I did notice you can stock the same fish in another part of the pond. I ran out of fish, but it's such a slow process I'd rather just ask. Do you have to add fish to various parrts of the pond or all in the same school of initial fish? How many are we talking here?

Oh and on a previous play that a glitch ended I did some fishing and randomly obtained some wierd items. One was a spiffy unique guitar. Is there any tips on getting random junk? So far I have mastered fishing with my main character on this play, gotten both bonuses and have only found 2 random trinkets? I'll try fishing with no bait I guess in some lousy area and see.

Oh, back on topic, I tried beating up the person whose house was on fire and it wouldn't let me in one place, but his roomate showed up, waving arms and yelling and strangely I was able to annoy him enough to brawl as the place burned.

Another goofy thing, I finally did a mission where you just go into the building and wait for the charge meter to complete. After leaving I clicked on the firetruck to go back to the station, but instead my character walked to the nearest bench and started reading a book. I clicked it again and he then ran the whole way on foot back to the station. I had to run back there after work and get close enough to it for him finally drive it back. Gotta love it.

OH, and a civilians house fire had a wife standing in some flames with a baby. Experimenting, I told her she should leave. She just stood there. I told her two more times and then I got a bubble msg saying I saved 2 people, but she was still standing in the middle of flames. Time to get Fiendish.

One more question - I forget the trait, Insane? Inappropriate? (The ones that dress strangely) When you train these sims with Sim Fu and they get a special Sim Fu outfit that they show off after obtaining a rank do these crazies decide to just wear something ridiculous? I trained some lady in the firestation while waiting and all I could see of her traits was that she was also evil, so naturally I thought I'd do the whole thick as thieves thing, but when she swapped out for the white uniform she instead switch to a bathing suit?

Can you train the Grim Reaper? I need some kung fu with the reaper.

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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2010, 02:40:05 AM »
The Forum has tons of information about fishing, but this thread is the most specific to your question.  If you don't find an answer, go ahead and post your new question in this thread.

Stocking Ponds With Fish

The random junk appears to be random.  You can get rubber ducks, bubble bath, seeds, gnomes, guitars, and more.

It's the Insane trait that makes Sims stress strangely.  I currently have an insane level 10 Martial Artist and I've never seen him in a Sim Fu outfit.  :)
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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2010, 07:29:00 AM »
Can you train the Grim Reaper? I need some kung fu with the reaper.

Now that I would love to see!

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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 04:02:01 PM »
One more question - I forget the trait, Insane? Inappropriate? (The ones that dress strangely) When you train these sims with Sim Fu and they get a special Sim Fu outfit that they show off after obtaining a rank do these crazies decide to just wear something ridiculous? I trained some lady in the firestation while waiting and all I could see of her traits was that she was also evil, so naturally I thought I'd do the whole thick as thieves thing, but when she swapped out for the white uniform she instead switch to a bathing suit?


Insane sims wear whatever outfit they feel like wearing at the moment.  I have an Insane sim who has mastered Martial Arts and he has never once worn the martial arts outfit.  When he was getting the new belts, he just changed into something else.  Usually he does martial arts in his formal clothes.  ::)
 
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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 04:04:11 PM »
Thank you, I'll go take a look after this.

Random Junk - Arg, guess I'm just pretty unlucky this game. Ah well, I have my evil kid and wife both going on camping trips up the road to the park/pond I bought and spruced up. They're all fishing maniacs now cleansing that place of all aquatic life. Hopefully at this rate I'll start getting more junk. I did get a rubber duck, lol.

Insane Trait - Ah, whew. I was thinking I had experienced yet another glitch then thought maybe it was just that they were fruitcakes. This game is pretty funny at times.

"Now that I would love to see!"

Yeah, I've gotta try it if I can manage to befriend him, or even get him to stick around again. Being a firefighter is super slow, but once I finish checking that out I'm going psycho again and will see if I can educate the reaper on how to give a beat down. A Grim Reaper in the grand master uniform doing a flying roundhouse kick and splitting space rocks. It'd almost be worth learning those horrible foreign songs too so you could get him singing a love song in his devil voice.

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Re: Will they fix Martial Arts?
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 06:46:22 PM »
Grayslayer, when you want to quote someone, make sure to actually hit the Quote button and not Reply when you're adding to a thread. I see you put Malteser60's "Now that I would like" to see in quotes, but to the untrained eye, it's just something you're saying and does not appear as if you're quoting anyone.