Breaking up

[Janna]

I have done a search, but am not sure if what I have read answers my questions.

I have in my bin some families and was wondering if I took them, added them to a town and then had them break up, would they still be considered partners? 

Basically, can I take a sim couple out of my bin and add them to a town, and then if I break up a marriage and my sim marries one of the partners, does it still show up with them as being a partner to the original sim or to my sim?  I want to double check and see if the answer is they are no longer the partner of the original couple, but now a partner to the new sim. 

I want to add some of them to a town that I am working on, creating a town, not from CAW, but just doing some changes in a blank town. 

[Anushka]

When you place Household from the bin in any town, you place a copy of them while the original file is in the bin until you delete it from there. That means you can do whatever you want to your couple in that town, there would be no changes in household you saved in bin. In fact you can place several copies of same household in one town and have neighboorhood of clones if you want, and place them in as many towns you want, as many times you want and do what you want, original file won't be changed and their relationships, age, memories - nothing will change.

[Janna]

Thanks, that is helpful to know.  Although they would then not be able to have offspring from anyone in the town, if it was a town of clones.   

But what I am also wondering is, if I place Billie Bob and Susie Q in a town and then break them up and Jane Doe marries Billie Bob, will it still show that he is Susie Q's partner or that he is now Jane Doe's partner? 
And if Susie Q married Jonny B, will thier offspring see the offspring from Jane and Bille as being related, a step sibling?


I am figuring that it will show him as Jane Doe's partner, but I had moved a sim to another game in the same town, hoping to marry a sim to another sim.  They had been related in the original town as grandfather and grandaughter, and the system showed them as being related in the new town, so I couldn't match them up, which surprised me. 

I know it was because they were related in the original game; but I am just being more cautious in other testings.

I hope I am making sense.

[Wai]

I may not be  fully understanding you. 

My take is that you have a couple saved to the bin as a couple.

You wish to seperate them and clear all relationships. 

I would suggest that you make a temporary game.  Move the couple to a lot then use the cheat to edit them individually  in CAS.  When in CAS save the sim to the libarary.  You will then be able to use CAS to create a new sim for use in you new game.

Alternatively, after placing the sims on the lot in the temporary game, go to edit town and split up family then evict the remaining sim.  From the clipboard you will then be able to save the sims individually to the library.  I understand, though I have never done this, that all relationships will be lost when the sims are moved to a new town.

[Anushka]

I may not be  fully understanding you. 

My take is that you have a couple saved to the bin as a couple.

You wish to seperate them and clear all relationships. 

I would suggest that you make a temporary game.  Move the couple to a lot then use the cheat to edit them individually  in CAS.  When in CAS save the sim to the libarary.  You will then be able to use CAS to create a new sim for use in you new game.

Alternatively, after placing the sims on the lot in the temporary game, go to edit town and split up family then evict the remaining sim.  From the clipboard you will then be able to save the sims individually to the library.  I understand, though I have never done this, that all relationships will be lost when the sims are moved to a new town.

I am almost certain that relationship remain even if you evict Sim from the household. I use mod to help me with this - Master Controller - Total Annihilation that remove all traces of existence of that other Sim including relationships. Without Cheats - draw relationship down and break them up, than evict the other Sim - they will still be ex boyfriend/girlfriend that way but your Sim is single and reputation is preserved.

I am not fully understanding your question neither. Once you place your couple from the bin into a new town, game treats them completely separately and independent of each other, so changes in relationships in world will not affect the couple in the bin. That means if you break up Billie and Susie they are just ex girlfriend/boyfriend and nothing else. If Jane marries Billie he will show as Jane's partner in the game you married them, but in bin he will still be with Susie. Consider households in the bin same way as lots in bin, or worlds in main menu. They are starting point that can be used as many time you want and each can be modified any way you want, while original is not affected.

If this is not what you asked about please try to explain better what is your concern.

[Pam]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Janna, but I think the root of her question is what happens after she has placed the couple into the new town.  Like when you start a new game and you can choose a family from the bin.  She's choosing a family that she copied from another town/file and it's a couple who are married.  Then if she has them fight and break up, will they still show up as each other's spouses.  And if I'm right about the issue, I believe the answer is that, no, they will not still show up as married or engaged or whatever.  They will show up as an ex.  Once they break up, both are free to pursue and marry any other Sim in town.  There may be jealousy issues with the exes, but that would just be part of the game playing.

I hope I hit on what you're looking for, Janna.  And it's certainly nice to see you around the Forum again. 

I'm going to move this thread to the Miscellaneous Help board, which I think is the best place for it.

[Janna]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Janna, but I think the root of her question is what happens after she has placed the couple into the new town.  Like when you start a new game and you can choose a family from the bin.  She's choosing a family that she copied from another town/file and it's a couple who are married.  Then if she has them fight and break up, will they still show up as each other's spouses.  And if I'm right about the issue, I believe the answer is that, no, they will not still show up as married or engaged or whatever.  They will show up as an ex.  Once they break up, both are free to pursue and marry any other Sim in town.  There may be jealousy issues with the exes, but that would just be part of the game playing.

I hope I hit on what you're looking for, Janna.  And it's certainly nice to see you around the Forum again. 

I'm going to move this thread to the Miscellaneous Help board, which I think is the best place for it.

Pam said it a WHOLE lot better than I did.  I realize I was confusng and I apologize for that, I just for some reason (I will use that I am catching a cold, or something, hubby is very generous, he is sharing whatever he had last week) couldn't get my head working.

I had felt that there would be no problem in breaking them up and later be in relationships with other sims in the same town until I had moved a sim (Dawn) from my saved bin, put her in a new game but same town and she came up as the great-grandaughter of a character (George) who had been her great-grandfather in the game I had saved her from. 

To me, that was a different George, so I hadn't expected her to show up as his great-grandaughter; I didn't see them as great-grandfather and great-grandaughter in the new game. 
I've only broke up one couple (kicked the cheater out) before and I didn't bother to pay any attention to what their relationship showed them as. 

Thanks for the help, all of the suggestions will be useful for later on.
I hope I made sense this time.