The main thing I hate about the elders is the slouchy look. It's a bit better when you use the southern gentlemen walk with the cane from generations, but then that just makes them look weird, not ugly, weird. I mean, the slouchy no muscle look kind of fits with an immortal dynasty, I mean, come on, you have to give them some credit, they're immortal. But for normal gameplay, Bleh! It's exactly why if I'm not playing seriously that I age them up as soon as they turn elder... kind of cruel, I know. But hey, there's other things to do if you get tired of playing your sim... Back on Topic. What I think is kind of weird, is that the elders can't dress normal, but they can do just about all the things that normal sims can do. Personally, I don't like seing my skinny slouching elder getting caught by a fire trap in a tomb, being blasted by water(Ok that would be kind of fun in real life.) and having darts hurled at them. Though once, I think that one of my elders who worked out pretty much for a living( she was in the sports career.) kept just a hint of muscle, it honestly made her look better. And if you color their hair the same color that it was you can barely notice it. Except for their slouching and horrible clothes, but hey, when their doing kong fu, it can really fool your eyes. And if you don't look to closely, you can't see the wrinkles. But yes, I think EA should at least add a slouching slider. I mean sure, they added the age freeze and young again potion, but come on EA, that's barely a substitute.