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Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« on: December 13, 2012, 09:12:47 AM »
I noticed this in my Life States Dynasty first.  The game killed off a few people and I kept thinking to myself that it was good news because that means I can use them later as ghosts if I wanted to and it would help kill townie genes in my game.    I can't actually manage the dead on the mausoleum though.

I just tried a brand new file where I killed off several individuals.  Again, no mausoleum option to manage the dead.  I made one of my Sims best friends with a townie then I killed him.  Now I can manage the dead but he's the only one there.


Anyone else having this problem?
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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 09:20:35 AM »
I noticed this in my Life States Dynasty first.  The game killed off a few people and I kept thinking to myself that it was good news because that means I can use them later as ghosts if I wanted to and it would help kill townie genes in my game.    I can't actually manage the dead on the mausoleum though.

I just tried a brand new file where I killed off several individuals.  Again, no mausoleum option to manage the dead.  I made one of my Sims best friends with a townie then I killed him.  Now I can manage the dead but he's the only one there.


Anyone else having this problem?
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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 09:27:16 AM »
In my life state dynasty file I can manage the dead and take the graves of people I don't know. However I can only ask the genie to resurect those people who my Sim actually knows. I don't know if this has always been like it as I have never tried to resurect anyone before.
For instance we can resurect the random pap who died on the lawn but not Pappy Wolff.

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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2012, 09:37:01 AM »
I've never been able to get the gravestones of Sims my Sim didn't know. Unless their gravestone is at the graveyard, then you can ''steal'' it. You have Supernatural right, the Philosopher’s Stone should give you access to anyone's ghost.

Not if that ghost's grave marker isn't placed down somewhere.  You can't rezz people whose gravestones are in the mausoleum.

I have always been able to get the townie from the graveyard even if I didn't know them.  So I don't know when that randomly changed.  Artie's dynasty file had gravestones in the mausoleum of people that died in his first week of living in Lunar Lakes.
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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 03:51:57 PM »
I actually asked twallan about something along these lines quite a while back. Here's his response:

The "Manage the Dead" interaction simply opens the inventory panel for the Mausoleum rabbithole.  If there are urnstones available in the object, or in your sim's inventory, then you see the interaction.

If there are no urnstones in the object, or in your sim's inventory, then you *don't* see the interaction.

The creation of each new urnstone is still dependent on the EA Protection flag, or whether you had a significant relationship with the dead sim.

I'm guessing that the Protection Flag (not competent in C++ which is where this would be defined, so I can't explain further) wasn't triggered for whatever reason.

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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 07:07:55 PM »
In my life state dynasty file I can manage the dead and take the graves of people I don't know. However I can only ask the genie to resurect those people who my Sim actually knows. I don't know if this has always been like it as I have never tried to resurect anyone before.
For instance we can resurect the random pap who died on the lawn but not Pappy Wolff.

Rachel

When Showtime first came out I started a DecaDynasty with Agnes. She got a genie but couldn't rezz Erik until she had met him even though his grave was on her lawan. I don't know if you can do the science center "Oh My Ghost!" opp with a Sim you don't know.

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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 07:18:40 PM »
If you get the opportunity for someone you do know, then you can resurrect any sim for whom you have a tombstone. As part of the life-state race I resurrected Breezy the dog from the Appaloosa Plains graveyard, by stealing his tombstone, and then killing off a sim that had BFF status with another sim with no skills.



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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 09:44:22 PM »
I know all the ways to rezz a Sim.   I don't know how to find a Sim's ghost if they don't have a gravestone though.  Agnes Crumplebottom died via electrocution and Mortimer Goth was drowned but neither one are available at the mausoleum and tombstones don't just hang around town. 
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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 10:26:09 PM »
I know all the ways to rezz a Sim.   I don't know how to find a Sim's ghost if they don't have a gravestone though.  Agnes Crumplebottom died via electrocution and Mortimer Goth was drowned but neither one are available at the mausoleum and tombstones don't just hang around town. 

I have had Samuel Goth's gravestone at the Performance Park in MF for most of the game. He died when my founder was still trying to finish up her requirements, but I had already purchased that lot, so that may be a factor in why it's still there. If this isn't a dynasty/challenge you might try using the "make me know everyone" cheat and then trying to manage the dead and see if you get any other tombstones.
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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2012, 04:56:30 AM »
Rica - did you try Twallan's Master Controller? It has a function that lets you find gravestones. I'm not sure if it's in one of the expansion modules. That's my last guess.

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Re: Townie Deaths not Producing Gravestones
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2012, 08:27:46 AM »
No.  This is for a challenge file and I don't use mods generally anyway (since most of my play is challenge files right now).    I guess I'm just going to have to turn into a social butterfly in order to maintain control of the genetics I intend to use later.  Thanks everyone.
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