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If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« on: December 08, 2012, 01:55:34 AM »
I'm doing my own personal Legacy Challenge for the purpose of accumulating family wealth without cheats, but I want my Matriarch to survive. Her name, Jennifer, is currently a ghost...

I assume she won't die. Right? lol.

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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 02:14:13 AM »
They won't die, in fact ghosts are immune to all types of death I believe. They can ''die'' of old age, but all they do is go back to the Netherworld. You can get them back of course.
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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 03:25:24 AM »
They won't die, in fact ghosts are immune to all types of death I believe. They can ''die'' of old age, but all they do is go back to the Netherworld. You can get them back of course.

No, you can't get them back when they return to the Netherworld.  They're gone for good then.

I'm doing my own personal Legacy Challenge for the purpose of accumulating family wealth without cheats, but I want my Matriarch to survive. Her name, Jennifer, is currently a ghost...

I assume she won't die. Right? lol.

Did you create her as a ghost?  What kind of ghost is she?
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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 06:50:27 AM »
If you want her to survive, you'd be better off having her either eat Ambrosia or drink an Age Freeze potion.

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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 12:52:05 AM »
Did you create her as a ghost?  What kind of ghost is she?

What? There's more than one kind??

She's the kind that is transparent and floats. I don't know if that's enough information... I started her off as a married woman, but of course, she dies, and now she's a ghost.

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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 12:57:14 AM »
There are different kinds of ghosts, though I personally don't know their effect on whether they die or not.  For one ghosts can be dead sims, or they could be born as a ghost.  The Supernatural expansion pack also allows ghosts to be created.  Then there are the different types of dead Sim ghosts, such as from old age, electrocution, fire, drowning, etc.  I take it your ghost is a sim that died of old age, which would be the answer to Pam's question.

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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 12:58:20 AM »
It doesn't matter how the ghost came into being; they age like normal sims.



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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 01:03:16 AM »
There are different kinds of ghosts, though I personally don't know their effect on whether they die or not.  For one ghosts can be dead sims, or they could be born as a ghost.  The Supernatural expansion pack also allows ghosts to be created.  Then there are the different types of dead Sim ghosts, such as from old age, electrocution, fire, drowning, etc.  I take it your ghost is a sim that died of old age, which would be the answer to Pam's question.

She died of starvation... purposely done by me. lol.

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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 01:15:29 AM »
No, you can't get them back when they return to the Netherworld.  They're gone for good then.
I know a way but it requires Supernatural, with the Philosophers Stone you can, I have, I was surprised that I could.
Edit: I retested it for the sake of having accurate info and it's true, no fluke. Sims can be brought back from the Netherworld with the Philosophers Stone, it doesn't matter if they choose to go back, you can still get them.
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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2012, 02:12:11 AM »
It doesn't matter how the ghost came into being; they age like normal sims.

What I'm wondering about is this:  if a Sim dies of, say, starvation while a young adult, will the ghost live through the normal life stages and go to the netherworld at the end of the elder life phase?  Will they have birthdays like a normal Sim?  And if the ghost lives past elder and "dies" again, will the ghost then be an old age ghost or will it still be the original type of ghost?
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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2012, 07:53:38 AM »
if a Sim dies of, say, starvation while a young adult, will the ghost live through the normal life stages and go to the netherworld at the end of the elder life phase?

Yes.

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Will they have birthdays like a normal Sim?

Yes.

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And if the ghost lives past elder and "dies" again, will the ghost then be an old age ghost or will it still be the original type of ghost?

They'll still be their original ghost type.

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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2012, 09:58:04 AM »
No, you can't get them back when they return to the Netherworld.  They're gone for good then.

In fact, I think you can get them back again with Oh My Ghost, despite the in-game message.  I've certainly done it with a ghost dog.

What I'm wondering about is this:  if a Sim dies of, say, starvation while a young adult, will the ghost live through the normal life stages and go to the netherworld at the end of the elder life phase?  Will they have birthdays like a normal Sim?  And if the ghost lives past elder and "dies" again, will the ghost then be an old age ghost or will it still be the original type of ghost?

If they stay as a ghost, they age up normally but don't die.  They just go back into their urn/gravestone at the end of their lifespan, just like unplayable ghosts going back at dawn.  No Grim, no mourning, no in-game alert, even.  If you don't happen to have the camera on that Sim at the time, you'll miss it completely.  A non-old age ghost will keep their original appearance after losing their grip on the mortal realm.  Also, regardless of how many happiness points they've earned as a playable ghost, they'll keep the same type of urn/gravestone.  The only way to change things is with ambosia - they will then become just like a normal Sim.

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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2012, 06:10:09 PM »
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The only way to change things is with ambosia - they will then become just like a normal Sim.

So the only way to keep a ghost as a ghost forever is to feed them ambrosia just before their disappearance into the Netherworld and then kill them to become a ghost again?  Or does it not work that way either?

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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2012, 06:13:41 PM »
In fact, I think you can get them back again with Oh My Ghost, despite the in-game message.  I've certainly done it with a ghost dog.

You've had a ghost dog return to the Netherworld and could get it back?  It's been awhile since I've played a ghost, but the time I had one return to the Netherworld, he took his tombstone with him, so it was not possible to do the Oh My Ghost opportunity because it requires the tombstone.
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Re: If I have a ghost Sim, will this Sim live forever?
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2012, 12:07:15 AM »
You've had a ghost dog return to the Netherworld and could get it back?  It's been awhile since I've played a ghost, but the time I had one return to the Netherworld, he took his tombstone with him, so it was not possible to do the Oh My Ghost opportunity because it requires the tombstone.

This is true. My ghost sim's urn is in her inventory. I try to drag it outside so that I can give it to someone else. It won't let me. The only option is "go to netherworld." Of course, I'd rather milk my sim and savor her awesomeness than give her away too quickly...



So I assume that with the SuperNatural expansion pack, I can get her back from the NetherWorld?