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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2012, 06:46:06 PM »
Carl, are you pursuing this with EA and/or directly with the person who uploaded it?
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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2012, 06:49:14 PM »
I just reported it too. I checked off "plagiarism" as the reason I was reporting it, and said there was no credit given to the people who worked on it, and it was outright theft.
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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2012, 07:02:27 PM »
I too reported it.  How awful that this happened.  From what it looks like, that person has only one friend and only game registered on the site.  I sure hope it gets resolved soon.  Too much work done on this from our members and not get any credit for it.  I also posted on their page too. 
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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2012, 07:18:08 PM »
That's absolutely disgusting.

If it weren't blocked at work, I would have reported also; as it is, I will do so if it's still up when I get home.

This might also be a good time for everyone who's posted to the Swap Shop to double check their own stuff there.

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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2012, 07:22:44 PM »
That's absolutely disgusting.

If it weren't blocked at work, I would have reported also; as it is, I will do so if it's still up when I get home.

This might also be a good time for everyone who's posted to the Swap Shop to double check their own stuff there.

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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2012, 08:13:36 PM »
This is a copy of the e-mail I received back from EA:

Hello $contacts.email.addr,
Thank you for sending us your report concerning a violation of the Terms of Service. We appreciate your support in this issue. Since this report becomes confidential once we receive it, we are unable to inform you of the end result. Rest assured, we take every report very seriously and will ensure that proper action be taken.
For any additional concerns, feel free to contact us.
Yours,
EA World Wide Customer Support
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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2012, 08:18:41 PM »
I got exactly the same message, Marian.  I think it must be some kind of automated response.
 
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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2012, 08:26:41 PM »
Most certainly automated.
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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2012, 10:23:00 PM »
I have just reported!

(This is off topic but is there a way to download Union Cove differintly? Like the exchange(by a user of course)?)

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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2012, 10:23:39 PM »
I have just reported!

(This is off topic but is there a way to download Union Cove differintly? Like the exchange(by a user of course)?)

You mean differently than the way provided by the front page?
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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2012, 10:28:06 PM »
Carl, are you pursuing this with EA and/or directly with the person who uploaded it?

I attempted contact with the uploader on the wall 24h before we mentioned it here, to give them a chance to take it down - I also sent a friend request to get his attention. EA Customer Service was contacted earlier today and said they would escalate the complaint to a specialist who can determine the best action. Thomas did that, I didn't even think to engage their CS reps in chat but it's been passed up. The reps speak legalese and what is and isn't plagiarism and when it becomes their property when it's a clear-cut moral issue. Hopefully the knowledge that the original creators did not authorize it will be enough. It's possible this representative simply did not have the ability to do anything about reported items. They've certainly got the evidence, the reports, and the ability to remove this item from the Exchange so let's just hope they do the right thing.

The contingency plan is that I will upload UC on my account when we've got it updated - then there's no reason for someone else to do this or at least little motivation to do so.

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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2012, 12:28:44 AM »
You mean differently than the way provided by the front page?

Yes

On topic question: I don't like this Mac person at all! Why would he/she do this?

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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2012, 01:25:08 AM »
Carl, speaking for myself (and I'm sure everyone else here as well) I want to express my appreciation for all the hard work that you, Pam, the moderators, the challenge board people, the Union Cove design team and so forth put into this site, and your willingness to share the knowledge you have gathered with the rest of us. I've been a part of other sites that are essentially 'fan sites' for things like Star Trek, and some of the people that came, joined for a short time, and then left, attempted to take the material that group developed and pass it off as their own. That was plaigarism then and this is the same, probably much worse, in my opinion, as the EA Sims 3 Exchange is a lot more public than where those people attempted to post stuff.

The effort that all of you have put into this place for us to enjoy is what has made so many of us up in arms about this person behaving in this way.

I've also been part of a fantasy world building site, Santharia. From time to time, we come across sites (including some wikipedia pages) that either directly copy from that site and claim Santharia as he source, or copy directly from Santharia and claim it as their own work. The first of these are mostly laughed at by us (particularly the scientific site that used what we did on that as evidence for evolution, however the second type is taken more seriously and the owner of that site has written on more than occasion to the holders of the other content to ask them to cease and desist. Santharia has it as a policy that all the material on the site is copyrighted by the original authors, artists, musicians etc and it can't be used without their express permission, and that if Santharia ever attempts to go commercial, permission must be sought from all contributors or their material must be removed.

From my understanding of IP matters and copyright (and I'm not a lawyer, merely someone whose been a member of online creative forums and offline writing groups for a while now), as soon as anyone writes/produces something they own it and it is copyrighted to them, it doesn't legally need anything more. The (c) (TM) (R) and so forth symbols are there to make it clear to everyone and to suggest that people need to steer clear of it, or acknowledge the true owners of it.

So, that's my take on it, sorry if that rambled on, but I wanted to express my thanks to you guys again.

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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2012, 02:23:03 AM »
Why would he/she do this?

Don't try to understand them. To them, their intentions seem perfectly logical, even though they're not.

I reported this as well. It's a disgrace for this person to reupload it without permission.

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Re: Union Cove on Exchange without Permission
« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2012, 02:27:16 AM »
Something I wondered about, since it is his only creation and he has only one game registered, can it be revenge of some sort?

 

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