Supernatural EP Glitches after 1.39

[RunAmokSims]

I had a game that was running perfectly before the new zombie patch. I did not have the over run by zombies problem. Two or three would spawn on my lot during a full moon.

I went to my saved game and played through 3 full moons and I had NO zombies at all. I liked my zombies! They were fun targets for my witch to practice spells and curses.

I started a new game, hoping that because of the patch I just needed a new game. I transferred my witch, with her house, to the new game. She had mastered gardening and now will not harvest any plants. She'll tend her garden but won't harvest, in fact there is seldom a harvest option for actions. If I try to force a harvest she becomes invisible and I need to do a reset on her.

During the full moon one lone zombie appeared.

She had a pet parrot in the house with her and had maxed out the relationship to best friend. In the new game they didn't even know each other. I tried using the testing cheat to bring back their relationship. I could raise the relationship bar but as soon as I clicked off the relationship panel it went back to 0.

At this point I have no idea what else might be glitched. I just closed my game and came here to see if anyone is having similar problems to "the fix".

Before installing SN I removed my few Nraas mods and have not reinstalled them


Edited to add this.
  I forgot to add that my witch could no longer research alchemy.  She had only four more elixirs to learn and I had to end up buying books for the ones she didn't know to max out her recipes.  She would stand at the book, read and then close it without learning anything.

[duham2]

For alchemy, there are some skills that you can't learn by researching. You can only learn them through the skill books.

[RunAmokSims]

For alchemy, there are some skills that you can't learn by researching. You can only learn them through the skill books.

The first Sim I used with Alchemy maxed out completely just doing research in his book.

[LivvieLove]

If I recall you can learn almost all the recipies, but things like Tragic Clown and Potent Skill booster (along with others) are found in skill books much like you would learn Ratatouille from a cooking recipe book.

[crowgrrrl]

Yes, you can learn most from researching Alchemy. There are 7 which you have to buy like LivvieLove said. 

Regards,
Sarah

[RunAmokSims]

If I recall you can learn almost all the recipies, but things like Tragic Clown and Potent Skill booster (along with others) are found in skill books much like you would learn Ratatouille from a cooking recipe book. :

I don't know what to say. Before the patch I maxed a Sim on Alchemy using just the book. He learned all the recipes just doing research.

[RunAmokSims]

Yes, you can learn most from researching Alchemy. There are 7 which you have to buy like LivvieLove said. 

Regards,
Sarah

The witch I was playing before I patched had 4 elixirs to learn. She learned all of the rest from her alchemy book.

[crowgrrrl]

Hmmm, I had no idea that "all" the recipes could be learned from the Alchemy skill books. My witch had both volumes but never read through them. Do not know if there is a third volume or not though.

Sorry you are having glitches RunAmokSims. You might want to wait until Twallan updates his mods for the new patch and try that to see if it fixes it. I have yet to download the newest patch and will not until Twallan updates all he needs too lol. I cannot live without his mods.

I do hope that there will be fixes or workarounds for those that prefer not to use mods since glitches can be Dynasty breakers.

Regards,
Sarah

[Ricalynn]

Hmmm, I had no idea that "all" the recipes could be learned from the Alchemy skill books. My witch had both volumes but never read through them. Do not know if there is a third volume or not though.

Sorry you are having glitches RunAmokSims. You might want to wait until Twallan updates his mods for the new patch and try that to see if it fixes it. I have yet to download the newest patch and will not until Twallan updates all he needs too lol. I cannot live without his mods.

I do hope that there will be fixes or workarounds for those that prefer not to use mods since glitches can be Dynasty breakers.

Regards,
Sarah

You cannot learn any recipes from the skill books only the skill.   There are 7 recipe books that the only way to get those six is to read those books.  The other 37 recipes comes from using the alchemy station which resembles a book on a pedestal.   


This is why I say they can only be done by a recipe book.  Look at what it says for Procreation Elixir.  If you learned them another way then it's possible that's when the glitches started. 


As for the gardening glitch, have you tried this on a Sim that you didn't save to the household bin?  There could be a problem where you literally saved the glitches with the Sim so they're just going to follow you.    It sounds like one of the glitches that everyone has experienced with Sims that knew gardening before Supernatural came out.  The only way it can be fixed is with Overwatch which you say you haven't put back in.

[RunAmokSims]

You cannot learn any recipes from the skill books only the skill.   There are 7 recipe books that the only way to get those six is to read those books.  The other 37 recipes comes from using the alchemy station which resembles a book on a pedestal.   


This is why I say they can only be done by a recipe book.  Look at what it says for Procreation Elixir.  If you learned them another way then it's possible that's when the glitches started. 


As for the gardening glitch, have you tried this on a Sim that you didn't save to the household bin?  There could be a problem where you literally saved the glitches with the Sim so they're just going to follow you.    It sounds like one of the glitches that everyone has experienced with Sims that knew gardening before Supernatural came out.  The only way it can be fixed is with Overwatch which you say you haven't put back in.

I don't know what to say.  I do know that for the first Sim, pre-patch, I never bought him a book, and never had him do anything but research and mix elixirs at the alchemy table.  I didn't even know about the elixir recipe books until my other Sim stopped learning, post-patch.  I then bought four books at random because I hadn't checked what she had learned and what she hadn't.  There were several listed and I just grabbed four off the list for a test. When she finished reading those four she knew 100% of the elixirs. Neither of them ever read an alchemy skill book.  Maybe I had some kind of positive glitch?

I'm probably going to try more things, including different garden testing,  tomorrow. All I know is that after having a game that was running so perfectly I'm a little disgusted and tired of trying things tonight.

Hmmm, I had no idea that "all" the recipes could be learned from the Alchemy skill books. My witch had both volumes but never read through them. Do not know if there is a third volume or not though.

Sorry you are having glitches RunAmokSims. You might want to wait until Twallan updates his mods for the new patch and try that to see if it fixes it. I have yet to download the newest patch and will not until Twallan updates all he needs too lol. I cannot live without his mods.

I do hope that there will be fixes or workarounds for those that prefer not to use mods since glitches can be Dynasty breakers.

Regards,
Sarah

At the site he said the only one he thought he had to fix was error trap.

http://nraas.wikispaces.com/State+of+the+Mod

[crowgrrrl]

I had wondered why there were skill books for Alchemy when you could learn it and recipes from the "station" then buy the other ones that you could not learn that way. I was 99% sure you could not learn recipes from the actual skill book  and that it was a glitch of some sort if it did occur.

As Ricalynn said try it with a Sim not saved to the household bin to see if that fixes some of the issues you are having. If that fails, since you have used Twallan's mods in the past, I would seriously consider putting them back in when they are updated for this newest patch. 

Regards,
Sarah

[crowgrrrl]

Thanks RunAmokSims! I had wondered if anything else would need updating. Just missed your post before I sent mine. Sorry about that.

Frustrations like you are experiencing after a perfect running game are just terrible. Hope things will be better in your game tomorrow.

Regards,
Sarah

[LivvieLove]

I think I know why you had all Elixirs!

Did you have the "View Elixir's I haven't learned" button checked? If not then it would APPEAR you had learned all of the Elixirs because it wouldn't show you that there were other Elixirs to be learned... make sense?
So in a sense you had all of them learned except the ones from books but those were not showing up in the Alchemy Station because the box was checked to view the elixirs you haven't learned...

Or I could be way off, but it's just a suggestion.

[RunAmokSims]

I think I know why you had all Elixirs!

Did you have the "View Elixir's I haven't learned" button checked? If not then it would APPEAR you had learned all of the Elixirs because it wouldn't show you that there were other Elixirs to be learned... make sense?
So in a sense you had all of them learned except the ones from books but those were not showing up in the Alchemy Station because the box was checked to view the elixirs you haven't learned...

Or I could be way off, but it's just a suggestion.

I was checking the top of the skill journal.  The one that has the number of recipes and the percentage of how many you've learned.  The one that says things like 22 out of 44, 50% learned.

Also both times, for the first Sim who learned everything from the station book  and the second one, after the patch who had to read four books,   I heard that little bit of triumphant  music that plays when a Sim has accomplished something.

It's all a moot point now though because it seems after the patch they are going to have to read some books. I'm more concerned with if the game will ever get back to being playable. You can't have a witch/alchemist if they can't harvest any plants for their elixirs.

When I get up the ambition later today I'll make some new Sims and test some more to see what works and what doesn't.

What really irritates me is that on release day when I installed SN I started a town and I was still playing it. That's almost a record for me. I usually get bored with a game after about a week and start a new one. I had customized community lots and created and skilled up three households. I was well on my way to have a town that I could play into the release of Seasons.

[sdhoey]

Hmmm, I had no idea that "all" the recipes could be learned from the Alchemy skill books. My witch had both volumes but never read through them. Do not know if there is a third volume or not though.

Sorry you are having glitches RunAmokSims. You might want to wait until Twallan updates his mods for the new patch and try that to see if it fixes it. I have yet to download the newest patch and will not until Twallan updates all he needs too lol. I cannot live without his mods.

I do hope that there will be fixes or workarounds for those that prefer not to use mods since glitches can be Dynasty breakers.

Regards,
Sarah

RunAmokSims is right twallan only had to update ErrorTrap for the new Patch. All his other mods are fine.