The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge

[Trip]

@Nutella: It's probably because hovering over her in the relationship panel yields no "??" fields for traits, just an empty rectangle. That, or sims with the Observant LTW don't pick up on any traits when speaking to them.

Also, I asked Rica about sims without traits a while back, and she said that you have to keep them the way they came. Does your "give them a re-roll" ruling override that?

EDIT: Found her quote, by the way:

Spouses have to remain as is.  So if you choose a spouse with no traits, that's your choice and something you have to live with.

[Shirin]

If she's a girlfriend (or otherwise shows up on the family tree), it's easy enough to trace to her and see traits (or lack thereof).

[Nutella]

@Trip

I was thinking Rica meant spouse with like 4 traits (like Lisa Bunch), have to take her as it is.  Since this is game error I didn't want to punish Turoskel for EA failure to create a bug-free game.

Let's check with the team/boss and will get back to you Turoskel.

[Turoskel]

My founder has the observant LTR and nothing came up, when I mouse over the box in the top left it shows her name and nothing else, usually there are the ? of unknown traits so I'm assuming she has none, it is very odd but I'm sort of glad to at least have the sim back even if she isn't the same as before she moved.

I don't mind if she stays blank to be honest, she might seem bland long term but she stayed overnight and got on well with everybody.

Shirin, the potential spouse is still in the tummy at the moment, I would imagine her own family tree is gone now, weirdly her father asked one of my other sims on a date just after I reloaded and she got her new name, he didn't show up though when I said yes.

@Trip

I was thinking Rica meant spouse with like 4 traits (like Lisa Bunch), have to take her as it is.  Since this is game error I didn't want to punish Turoskel for EA failure to create a bug-free game.

Let's check with the team/boss and will get back to you Turoskel.

Okay, I have plenty of time as I said he's not born yet, might not even be a fairy so may need to try again.

[Nutella]

@Turoskel

Team had discussed this over and the decision is to leave traits empty, if that townie indeed have blank traits. 

[Turoskel]

Okay I can live with that, better than rolling some nasties after moving her in 

Got my fairy heir so now I just need him to grow up and hope she's still about when he has, if he wants her of course.

[Shirin]

Would it be permissible by rules for you to have a spare/previous heir ask her to be a girlfriend, hop over to her on the family tree to see if she is, indeed, traitless, and then break up? It wouldn't be moving her in, after all.

At the least, it'd let you know if she's traitless or your game is just being silly.

[Turoskel]

My last single spare already moved out, all the others in the house are married, It wont take long to age him up once baby stage is over, so far it's worked out at 2 or 3 days for toddler a week for child and a week for teen, then he can ask her out himself.

[Shirin]

Ah, ok, fair enough.

I'll hope, then, that she does have traits and the game is being silly. Traitless sims just seems...odd.

[Trip]

I brought this up in a PM with the Team, but traitless sims are more common than some players think; some towns have service NPCs without traits, and all the ghosts in WA locations lack traits too. The latter is a great resource for spouses, when you think about it.

[Deklitch]

I brought this up in a PM with the Team, but traitless sims are more common than some players think; some towns have service NPCs without traits, and all the ghosts in WA locations lack traits too. The latter is a great resource for spouses, when you think about it.

I know that Dragon Valley has at least one mail deliverer without traits - Eavan Galiidar, as I just brought her into my household.

Good point regarding the WA ghosts, Trip, time to go and see which death types they have there.

[Trip]

Between all of the WA worlds, they have all base game ghost types, plus one Mummy's Curse ghost in Egypt. While it's easier to get a ghost in the homeworld, some worlds just don't have a lot of ghosts.

[Turoskel]

I expected Anita/Jenelle to be homeless but I noticed last night the game has moved her in with a family in town, she's definitely going to be my choice now as the other one Rhoda Bagley just got engaged to a woman so I'm guessing she wouldn't be to interested in my male heir, besides given the choice between hot headed or traitless I think I'll go with traitless 

My final spouse has been planned since gen two, Jon Lessen became a dehydration ghost, I was shocked when it happened as I didn't even realise he was a mermaid, but then I thought okay you just earned yourself a place in my dynasty mister, especially as he's an unusual ghost for Riverview.

[Turoskel]

Gen 6 rolled perceptive, I may put her in the investigator career when she grows up, am I right in thinking cases count as op's? I've heard that mentioned for other dynasties.

Anita did have no traits and no favourites apart from music but she has since acquired a food one I guess because she was chatting to somebody and it needed an icon to say what she liked, perhaps a colour will show up some time as well. One thing I found odd but it's just coincidence she had some painting skill, in her former existence she was artistic but I know it's not left over from before the glitch as she was a mermaid several times and has no scuba diving skill so it must be a new thing.

Also Shirin a big thank you for a comment of yours I read in another thread, my gen 5 was stuck on op's because I made him self employed and I'm playing with ITF, he needed just one and it wasn't happening, then I read you saying how the laser instrument always gets them and it worked, so thank you 

[Nutella]

Gen 6 rolled perceptive, I may put her in the investigator career when she grows up, am I right in thinking cases count as op's? I've heard that mentioned for other dynasties.

Yes, investigation career cases count as opportunities.