The Sims 3 Life States Dynasty Challenge

[Nutella]

@Turoskel

No potent cure elixir.
No you cannot use life state changing elixir, just have your household bite him to change to vamp. (see rica post below)

Actually a founder is allowed to change their life state as long as it's done before all requirements are finished.  However a mermaid is not allowed to use the diving skill challenges so if you want her to be a mermaid, she needs to do something other than diving for skill challenges.

It's already mentioned somewhere I thought on how there is no restrictions for spares & spouses to become new life states. Just for heirs.  However, no one can use elixirs or potions to become a new life state.  So there is no way to turn anyone into a witch other than birth.

[Trip]

But don't Potent Cure Elixirs count as life state-changing elixirs? As Rica said, no one is allowed to use life state changing elixirs, and we've lumped Potent Cure Elixirs under that label in the past.

[Turoskel]

This is why I asked as I wasn't sure if it came under that heading or not,  I know you can ask a sim to give up a life state but I've only ever seen that under romantic options and is there not some quest involved with it anyway? I couldn't do that on an NPC could I?

Really should have thought of all this before I kicked her out but I was hoping she would behave.

Well I wont do anything until there's an agreement on whether a cure elixir classes the same as a bottled witches brew etc. If it does I guess I'll have to put up with it and be careful who I have my sims talk to, she almost caught me last night but I happened to see her cast the spell just as I was sending a married sim to talk to the person she cast it on.

Alternatively what would happen if somebody bit her? would her life state change okay or could she get glitched? as you can probably tell I don't play supernaturals much so I'm a bit vague about it.

[Trip]

Sims that are already supernaturals can't be bitten by a vampire or werewolf (that is, the bite to change them into one of those life states; vampires can bite to drink plasma from any life state). It's because the game doesn't allow for dual life states. Ghosts might be the exception, because they can combine with other life states, but I haven't tested to see if you can turn them into another life state through biting/means other than an elixir.

And asking sims to forsake their life state only works for romantic partners in the active household, yes.

[Turoskel]

Thank you for explaining that, Trip, guess I'll just wait for a confirmation either way then.

[Nutella]

Ok I did find a post by Rica about potent cure.  Trip is correct as usual   No potent cure elixir for anybody at all.

[Turoskel]

Fair enough, guess I'll just have to be careful then, and add love charms to my list of 'things I wish were not autonomous' 

Thank you both 

[sunshine_2406]

I have a small problem. I decided to get one of my spares married and moved out, only it turns out her husband doesn't have a house. I'm not able to choose for her to live with him, and the only option is to have them move into the house. I have a save from not too long before, may I go back to it?

[Nutella]

@sunshine_2406

Can't you just kick her out instead? 

[sunshine_2406]

Unfortunately the wedding has gone through, so the only option I have is to accept them living in the house.

[KRae]

But can't you have her immediately use the phone to move and use the kick out option?

[sunshine_2406]

But her new husband will be in the house as well, and the rules state that no adding anyone to the house unless it is the spouse of the heir.

[KRae]

Darn rules! Maybe you can get permission to go back or do the temporary move in.

[Nutella]

This sounds like a player's mistake, not a game bug.  Unfortunately we do not allow going back to a previous save because player make a mistake.  You can continue to play your dynasty, but it won't be HOF eligible.  If you want HOF eligibility, I'm afraid you have to restart your dynasty.

Trip what is your thoughts?

[Trip]

I know we've encountered this problem before, but I can't remember the ruling. Give me a few minutes.

Also, my tip for anyone wanting to prevent this: there is a way to check if a spare's intended spouse lives in town or not. If they live in town, you'll get the option to invite their household over, and their household might include another sim or two, or it could just be them. But you'll get the option regardless. If they're homeless, you don't get the option at all. If they're a service NPC, you can also invite their household over, but when you click on that option, you'll get a very long list of sims.

So see if you can invite their household over, and then see who's in the household.

Now to go to the archives! I'll see what we've said in the past.


EDIT: Looks like Sunshine has had this problem before:

I have a problem my second gen's twin just got married, thinking I would move her out to live with him. Well apparently he has no house and it's not possible to select one for them to move into. What should I do? I've left it paused on the screen but apparently there's no cancelling now they're actually married.

And Metro's ruling was:

Quit...go back to a previous save and do not let the twin get married.