Handiness.. the risks?

[Katie123urgreat]

Does Carl's guide have a list of upgrades you can do to objects?
Thanks!

[Seabody]

Yes, On this page, if you scroll down a bit, you'll find it.

[Katie123urgreat]

Thank you, Seabody! 

[Gameactive]

Sorry for digging up an old topic, but I must add that one of my sims once caught himself on fire in an attempt to upgrade an expensive stove. Can't remember if the stove itself did too. I've also had sims dirty an object instead of making it self-cleaning.

[Schipperke]

Sorry for digging up an old topic, but I must add that one of my sims once caught himself on fire in an attempt to upgrade an expensive stove. Can't remember if the stove itself did too. I've also had sims dirty an object instead of making it self-cleaning.

Yes, I recently had a Sim die while attempting to upgrade an expensive stove.  She was in a good mood at the time and had maxed Handiness, so I assume this was a relatively rare occurrence.  But obviously it can happen.

[Seabody]

Yes, it's a rare occurrence, but it does happen. As I stated above, if you're only just at the required level to upgrade, you have a 25% chance of failure. Here's a rundown of the chances:


Each item is assigned an Upgrade Complexity (hereafter named UC - don't confuse it with Union Cove), plus a "SamehFactor" (hereafter named SF).  At a Skill Level equivalent to the UC + SF, there is a 0% chance of failing the upgrade. I assume that some items are deliberately set at above Level 10 so that there's some variety in play. The SF is hardcoded at 5 - this means, and I quote, "The number of levels above the level at which a sim can first upgrade the object at which the Sim would reach minimum chance of failure". Finally, if an upgrade failure is going to occur, it will occur at any time between 15% and 40% of the time required to upgrade.

The upgrade complexity of any stove is 4, however this was deprecated in 2008 (that means, it isn't being used by the game any more).

[Schipperke]

The upgrade complexity of any stove is 4, however this was deprecated in 2008 (that means, it isn't being used by the game any more).

What does this mean?  Sims 3 wasn't released until 2009.  Are you talking about earlier versions of the game?

[Seabody]

I know it wasn't released until 2009 - EA deprecated some of their tuning at various points. I assume that the code for Upgrade Complexity was in a Beta of the game, but they deprecated some of it before the Game's release.

[Katie123urgreat]

Thank you so much Seabody for the very interesting information! This will put my mind at a little ease by reading that.
Sorry that this is off topic, but do you recognise this Seabody?

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