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Title: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on January 27, 2020, 06:32:56 AM
Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically

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Goal
You asked for the vampires so we brought them to you. But there is one catch, your vampire does not want to be alone. So turn the town Sim by Sim, letter by letter.

General Challenge Rules
The General Challenge Rules (https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/forum/index.php?topic=31126.msg498207#msg498207) always apply. If applicable, exceptions will be noted below.

Specific Challenge Rules

Scoring

Turned Sims: You get 1 point for each Sim you turned.

Ch-Ch-Changes
The team does not want to edit and make changes to the ruleset once this event goes live, but we may have to. If an exploit is brought to our attention or we discover something else we reserve the right to ask affected players to redo their effort.

Have Questions?
If you have questions and need clarifications, ask away — you can either post your questions in this thread or if you feel a question might reveal a particular strategy you are considering, then feel free to PM the team. Choose the My Messages tab > Send Message > Send to Group (show membergroups) > Check the Challenge Board Moderator group.

And the Winner is...
After this event has closed everyone is encouraged to discuss how they approached the event. The winner is expected to provide detailed information on their strategy. Keep notes as you play your file.

This Event is Now Closed

Player                            Turned Sims     
Rainbow Dash244
Sruixan240
Nandarelle210
LenaLJ191
Nikitachi179
Elinoee179
Vesper171
Metropolis Man151
mismck147
Rainy146
trybat145
Ginj129
lizzi6692128
Teresa125
furbyqueen121
JocyMc114
Rick McKinley86
Deklitch63
ratchie42
thefaeriesgirl26
Kirstie16
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on January 27, 2020, 06:34:23 AM
Reserved
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on January 27, 2020, 06:35:33 AM
No more locked threads. :) Feel free to ask questions here if you wish. But, PMing the team is okay too if you'd prefer to keep strategy to yourselves.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: furbyqueen on January 27, 2020, 12:58:01 PM
If you don't have Vampires, do you have to mark DNF?
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on January 27, 2020, 01:52:00 PM
If you don't have Vampires, do you have to mark DNF?

Not at all, you just would take a pass on this event.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on January 27, 2020, 08:21:36 PM
*Crawls out of coffin* A Vampire challenge?! Oh man, you know this is my jam! Now I can finally create a Vampire Army to take over the Tournament with! ;D Challenge Team, I love you all so much for this I could hug you! *Gathers the Team in a group hug anyway* Fangs so much for not forgetting us occult players and giving us a challenge that we can really Sink our teeth into! Morrigan Van Helsing will return for this challenge, you can count on it! ;)

When you create a Vampire, you need to witness the transformation for it to happen, does this mean that after we turn Sims, we need to have them transform in front of us?

Can we turn Sims randomly generated by the game or pre-made Sims only? I'm guessing we won't be allowed to age children up early to turn them? Adding another question I forgot to ask, can we turn Sims not in a household, such as the homeless celebrities for example?


Hey @Metropolis Man, I got a question especially for you: :D

Q: What do you get if you cross a Snowman with a Vampire?

*Ducks Plasma fruit thrown her way and flies off into the night in bat form*

Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: ratchie on January 28, 2020, 02:56:14 AM
 if we turn Bella Goth for example and then bump into a new sim called Barry von homeless we cannot change him unless we go right around the alphabet and back to B again right?
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on January 28, 2020, 03:19:36 AM
if we turn Bella Goth for example and then bump into a new sim called Barry von homeless we cannot change him unless we go right around the alphabet and back to B again right?

Sounds like Barry Von Homeless had a lucky escape.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on January 28, 2020, 03:39:30 AM
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Quote from: ratchie on Today at 02:56:14 AM
if we turn Bella Goth for example and then bump into a new sim called Barry von homeless we cannot change him unless we go right around the alphabet and back to B again right?

Sounds like Barry Von Homeless had a lucky escape.

I disagree, I think Barry Von Homeless missed out on a great opportunity, I mean who wouldn't want to be immortal and all powerful for all of eternity, I mean sure there's whole being undead thing but that's just a minor inconvenience. ;) Being able to disable annoying Sims or have them be under your command to do as you please with them or simply drive them batty is worth it and passing that up would be a grave mistake. 8)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on January 28, 2020, 04:23:37 AM
Oh your puns Rainbow - am dying 😂
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: ratchie on January 28, 2020, 04:35:35 AM
Imagine how sad it would be if Barry's wife Betty Von Homeless gets turned without him. This is the vampire love story we all need.

Rachel
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on January 28, 2020, 04:47:06 AM
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Posted by: ratchie« on: Today at 04:35:35 AM »Imagine how sad it would be if Barry's wife Betty Von Homeless gets turned without him. This is the vampire love story we all need.

Then we just turn Betty Von Homeless as well and it would still be a better Vampire love story than Twilight. ;)

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Posted by: Vesper« on: Today at 04:23:37 AM »Oh your puns Rainbow - am dying 😂

@Vesper Thank you, I try. @Metropolis Man loves my Vampire puns, I do them every Vampire challenge just for him, he thinks they are fangtastic.

Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on January 28, 2020, 01:37:41 PM
Added the following rule:

Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Teresa on January 28, 2020, 02:02:26 PM
When you create a Vampire, you need to witness the transformation for it to happen, does this mean that after we turn Sims, we need to have them transform in front of us?

Tagging on to this - the order is based upon when your sim bites them, right?  Not when they actually transform?  Because they could be bitten in the right order, but transform out of order (have had this happen before).

Thanks!
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on January 28, 2020, 02:06:00 PM
the order is based upon when your sim bites them, right?  Not when they actually transform?  Because they could be bitten in the right order, but transform out of order (have had this happen before).

Thanks!

I'll answer this one with a yes, it's bite order.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Teresa on January 28, 2020, 02:19:44 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on January 28, 2020, 04:33:55 PM
if we turn Bella Goth for example and then bump into a new sim called Barry von homeless we cannot change him unless we go right around the alphabet and back to B again right?

Correct. Ba comes before Be, so Barry would need to be turned first. Since you turned Bella, you'd then be looking for a Blake, Brenda, and maybe even Bjorn Ironside. Lol. :) "You vampires are nothing! I am the son of Ragnar Lothbrok!"
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: GlazeyLady on January 28, 2020, 05:04:03 PM
if we turn Bella Goth for example and then bump into a new sim called Barry von homeless we cannot change him unless we go right around the alphabet and back to B again right?

Correct. Ba comes before Be, so Barry would need to be turned first. Since you turned Bella, you'd then be looking for a Blake, Brenda, and maybe even Bjorn Ironside. Lol. :) "You vampires are nothing! I am the son of Ragnar Lothbrok!"

Except you don't start over when you get to the end of the alphabet. It's only one time through.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on January 28, 2020, 05:35:24 PM
next year, do it reverse alphabet ie start with z and go to a :D (and solely by surname)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on January 28, 2020, 10:08:03 PM
I still haven't seen an answer the questions I asked about turning homeless or randomly generated Sims, can we do that? I mean the fate of Barry and Betty Von Homeless is at stake here! :o

Seeing as my brilliant joke is clearly too complicated for @Metropolis Man I'll answer this one:

Q: What do you get if you cross a Snowman with a Vampire?
A: Frostbite!

:D
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: LenaLJ on January 29, 2020, 02:50:07 AM
I still haven't seen an answer the questions I asked about turning homeless or randomly generated Sims, can we do that? I mean the fate of Barry and Betty Von Homeless is at stake here! :o

Seeing as my brilliant joke is clearly too complicated for @Metropolis Man I'll answer this one:

Q: What do you get if you cross a Snowman with a Vampire?
A: Frostbite!

:D

You can turn any Sim that your vampire meets, as long as you follow the alphabet.
And i must admit, your questions got a bit lost to me in all the flavor text.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on January 30, 2020, 05:03:37 PM
@Rainbow Dash ... a poem for you about things that go bump in the night (not my creation)

Is it a ghoul, the creature says, laid out to rest til the end of its days,
Is it a vampire? thirsty and paler a cousin of Dracula or Vlad the Impaler
Is it a ghost? I don't mean to boast, but it seems dramatic like a rall in the attic.
By jove there's a chance it's a wight, though that can't be right,
In fact this slim creature is not what it seemed, it's a handsome and witty renowned Poetic Fiend.
- Poetic Fiend, Grail Quest books

Also, to confirm, for this challenge, Uni and the Magic Packs are allowed?
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on January 30, 2020, 05:11:07 PM
Also, to confirm, for this challenge, Uni and the Magic Packs are allowed?

Yes, Tiny Living is the only listed banned pack.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: ratchie on February 02, 2020, 10:45:53 AM
I got this pack when it first came out and have never played a vampire. I might need to actually do several practice runs.

Rachel
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: ratchie on February 02, 2020, 12:24:14 PM
question. Is Johnny zest J for Johnny or Z for Zest.  The household is called the Zest household but the Sim is called Zest Johnny.

Rachel
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: LenaLJ on February 02, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
question. Is Johnny zest J for Johnny or Z for Zest.  The household is called the Zest household but the Sim is called Zest Johnny.

Rachel
It goes by first name. So if his name is Zest Johnny its Z
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on February 02, 2020, 07:36:13 PM
question. Is Johnny zest J for Johnny or Z for Zest.  The household is called the Zest household but the Sim is called Zest Johnny.

Rachel
It goes by first name. So if his name is Zest Johnny its Z

This was fixed in a patch so he should always be called Johnny Zest now. If he's ever referred to as Zest Johnny it's a bug, which would make it odd to rule for.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: ratchie on February 02, 2020, 08:25:19 PM
I will have to double check what he is in my game.  Honestly haven't played him in years sorry for the stupid question.

Rachel
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on February 03, 2020, 02:55:52 AM
Just didn't want you to miss him by going to his place last and finding a J not a Z.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on February 03, 2020, 05:58:24 PM
I will have to double check what he is in my game.  Honestly haven't played him in years sorry for the stupid question.

Rachel

It was not stupid at all, Rachel. In fact, truth be told, when Lena originally threw the idea out to the team I had it in my head that alphebetizing any list of names automatically goes to the surname. But, once I wrapped my head around the first name approach -- it's honestly simpler.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on February 03, 2020, 10:57:39 PM
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Posted by: Metropolis Man
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Quote from: ratchie on February 02, 2020, 08:25:19 PM
I will have to double check what he is in my game.  Honestly haven't played him in years sorry for the stupid question.

Rachel

It was not stupid at all, Rachel. In fact, truth be told, when Lena originally threw the idea out to the team I had it in my head that alphebetizing any list of names automatically goes to the surname. But, once I wrapped my head around the first name approach -- it's honestly simpler.

This ^^ Going by the surname would be a pain in the neck, imagine doing that with a family like the Spencer-Lewis-Kims, I mean where would you even start lol, so first names make a lot more sense.

@Metropolis Man @LenaLJ Was this Challenge Lena's idea?

Great poem there @Deklitch, thanks! :D

On an unrelated note, I think I need that Sun Resistance perk, I'm dying in this frickin heatwave that has been around since the weekend (It's the middle of Summer where I am), I can totally relate to Vampires exploding in sunlight, I feel like I'm about to do the same, lol.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on February 04, 2020, 06:55:37 AM
@Metropolis Man @LenaLJ Was this Challenge Lena's idea?


The whole vampire turning thing was Lena's idea, but then I tossed out the idea to give players a bit more to latch onto, more prep work and that's where needing to turn townies alphabetically came about.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on February 04, 2020, 07:07:08 AM
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Quote from: Rainbow Dash on February 03, 2020, 10:57:39 PM
@Metropolis Man @LenaLJ Was this Challenge Lena's idea?


The whole vampire turning thing was Lena's idea, but then I tossed out the idea to give players a bit more to latch onto, more prep work and that's where needing to turn townies alphabetically came about.

@Metropolis Man Don't you mean you wanted to give players a bit more to sink their teeth into?, I'm sorry but I couldn't resist, I mean you kind of made it too easy. :P Hey @Lena, thanks for finally letting me have my own Vampire army for a Challenge. 8)

It's finally cooled down a bit (After three days!) but it's late here, I'd better retire to my coffin for the night before @Metropolis Man stakes me. ;D
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on February 04, 2020, 07:59:57 AM
I've never banned anyone from the forum because of bad puns, but there's always a first! Lol. Seriously, this brings back good memories as a little boy sitting at the dinner table. My dad and I would try to outdo each other with the stupidest puns just to make mom laugh.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on February 04, 2020, 08:35:02 AM
@Rainbow Dash never forget, its not the cough that carries you off, but rather the coffin they carry you off in.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on February 05, 2020, 10:35:10 PM
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Posted by: Metropolis Man« on: February 04, 2020, 07:59:57 AM »I've never banned anyone from the forum because of bad puns, but there's always a first! Lol. Seriously, this brings back good memories as a little boy sitting at the dinner table. My dad and I would try to outdo each other with the stupidest puns just to make mom laugh.

Are you declaring a pun war there @Metropolis Man? :D Vlad I could bring back some good memories for you. :)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on February 06, 2020, 09:01:13 AM
was there a ruling on aging up children to biteable age?
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: LenaLJ on February 06, 2020, 09:31:13 AM
was there a ruling on aging up children to biteable age?
Not written down, but there should be, so I am going to change that.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Nikitachi on February 06, 2020, 11:11:16 AM
Probably stupid question, but still...

If my game's not in English (and there's no way to switch it to English, though I'd love to), what alphabet should I stick to when planning the order? The alphabet of the language my game is (which is Russian), or should I use English names of premade townies and transliterate the names of Sims that are spawned while the game is going?
I'm not sure it can give me any advantage/disadvantage, but just in case... For example, Alice Spencer-Kim would be in the very beginning of the list for English speakers, but for Russian, she'd be almost at the very bottom. And some last names are completely different (for example, the Caliente family in my game is 'Gongadze', Lord knows why).
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on February 06, 2020, 11:40:32 AM
Probably stupid question, but still...

If my game's not in English (and there's no way to switch it to English, though I'd love to), what alphabet should I stick to when planning the order? The alphabet of the language my game is (which is Russian), or should I use English names of premade townies and transliterate the names of Sims that are spawned while the game is going?

Do whatever you are most comfortable with, but just be consistent with whatever alphabet you choose. Lena set this up where you would go through the alphabet via examining the first name, so if that is interpreted differently in Russian, that's fine.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Sruixan on February 13, 2020, 06:46:05 AM
One quick question (be warned, there will be more!) - at what point does a townie count as turned? According to the progress report on the "Convert 5 Sims into full grown Vampires" goal of the Vampire Family aspiration, a townie counts as a vampire the instant you've finished biting them (unless they're a teen, because reasons), but I would have assumed that, for the purposes of this challenge, their transformation would actually have to take place...
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: LenaLJ on February 13, 2020, 08:28:49 AM
One quick question (be warned, there will be more!) - at what point does a townie count as turned? According to the progress report on the "Convert 5 Sims into full grown Vampires" goal of the Vampire Family aspiration, a townie counts as a vampire the instant you've finished biting them (unless they're a teen, because reasons), but I would have assumed that, for the purposes of this challenge, their transformation would actually have to take place...

@Sruixan We decided a while back to count it when you bite. The game does not always turn the uncontrolled sims in the right bite order. So we are counting a successful bite to turn them :)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: SoulGal7 on February 13, 2020, 08:35:19 AM
This sounds like a great challenge, but unfortunately, I won't be participating because I don't have that pack. Good luck, though, to everyone. Looking forward to the next challenge :)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: LenaLJ on February 13, 2020, 10:53:54 AM
Just to make sure all see it.
I have added a rule that you cannot age any sims up early!
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Ginj on February 13, 2020, 11:39:12 PM
Please forgive me if this is a silly question; I haven't played much at all with vampires.  Anyway, if I drink from Andrea without turning her, am I free to focus my attention on turning Alexis or is fangs puncturing skin sufficient for the deed in this challenge?
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: LenaLJ on February 14, 2020, 04:07:35 AM
Please forgive me if this is a silly question; I haven't played much at all with vampires.  Anyway, if I drink from Andrea without turning her, am I free to focus my attention on turning Alexis or is fangs puncturing skin sufficient for the deed in this challenge?


You have to use the action "Turn into Vampire" for it to count for this challenge.
When the vampire is then done with the whole sequence of mesmerising and biting etc. then you can count that sim as complete and go search for your next target.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Ginj on February 14, 2020, 11:02:54 AM
Thanks, Lena! This challenge will certainly be an incentive to learn how to deal with vampires!
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Teresa on February 14, 2020, 12:27:09 PM
I am excited about this one.  Patiently waiting for next week to get here ;)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on February 15, 2020, 12:30:57 AM
Nobody is more excited about this challenge than me, I love Vampires, I'm a big supernatural/occult player and I am beyond pumped to play this! I am very impatiently waiting for this challenge to begin! :D

In the meantime in between practicing for this, I'm trying out the new Tiny Living pack before we have to disable it, so I can play with the murder Murphy bed before it gets nerfed. ;D

Oh, by the way, when I said that Morrigan Van Helsing is returning for this challenge, I was referring to a different alternate version of her because obviously I can't use the original again, so this may or may not be her evil clone twin. 8) Just thought I'd clarify that for the Challenge Team.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Sruixan on February 15, 2020, 07:51:00 AM
As threatened, having spent the morning poking around a practice file, I've got more questions! My first pair stem from two consecutive sentences in the general challenge rules, whilst the others are more general:

Missing community EA lots such as the spa, must be placed at the beginning of your file. You are free to travel and/or move to any neighborhood or town.
Thanks in advance!

EDIT: okay, turns out I've got another - can my sim hire a butler? I know for the Power Of Ten dynasty it was decided that one didn't count as a household addition, but different strokes and all that...
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on February 16, 2020, 07:29:43 AM
As threatened, having spent the morning poking around a practice file, I've got more questions! My first pair stem from two consecutive sentences in the general challenge rules, whilst the others are more general:

Missing community EA lots such as the spa, must be placed at the beginning of your file. You are free to travel and/or move to any neighborhood or town.
  • Though the event doesn't explicitly call for any of the missing community lots, can I still place some at the beginning?
  • Am I correct in interpreting that second sentence as permission to "Move Household" as many times as I like, so long as my sim always moves onto uninhabited residential lots?
  • Presumably the Seasons settings are player's choice, else they'd be mentioned in the general rules? I've gleamed that starting season and season length aren't forced, but this is the first time I'm thinking about altering the rain, snow and temperature effect options...
  • What's the stance on adding/changing/removing lot traits? I'd assume no touching community lots, but my sim's home lot would be fair game?
  • Finally, and most simply, can my sim sign up for career(s)? I don't see why not, but I figured I'd ask...
Thanks in advance!

EDIT: okay, turns out I've got another - can my sim hire a butler? I know for the Power Of Ten dynasty it was decided that one didn't count as a household addition, but different strokes and all that...

I'm pretty sure it's a "yes" to all of your questions. This is another event from Lena, so you might want to wait until she can give a solid answer. But, I'm pretty sure you can do everything you asked about.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: LenaLJ on February 16, 2020, 05:36:14 PM
I would say yes
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on February 17, 2020, 01:30:17 AM
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Am I correct in interpreting that second sentence as permission to "Move Household" as many times as I like, so long as my sim always moves onto uninhabited residential lots?

I thought we couldn't move households unless a rule for a particular challenge states otherwise, I mean hasn't that always been a rule in the past or has that changed now? ???
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on February 17, 2020, 06:13:29 AM
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Am I correct in interpreting that second sentence as permission to "Move Household" as many times as I like, so long as my sim always moves onto uninhabited residential lots?

I thought we couldn't move households unless a rule for a particular challenge states otherwise, I mean hasn't that always been a rule in the past or has that changed now? ???

There is no General Rule preventing challenge Sims from moving at will. Specific challenge rulesets always override the General Rules, and there's nothing in this particular event preventing moving either.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Teresa on February 20, 2020, 10:26:06 PM
Halfway through - will probably finish tomorrow night.  And all I can say is... well not much yet, but I am having fun with it.   8) :-X
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Teresa on February 21, 2020, 11:21:03 PM
...and Volante Vaccari is done.  She turned 125 sims and is taking an early retirement. 
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on February 22, 2020, 02:47:51 AM
Congratulations Teresa :)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: ratchie on February 22, 2020, 01:22:09 PM
So my Sim died is that a straight up dnf or do I count my pitiful 42 Sims that I had turned. If anyone was wondering she died after gavin richards started a fire and the game sent her running out into blazing firey sun death and wouldn't let me send her back into the house because fire.

Rachel
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on February 22, 2020, 03:20:56 PM
So my Sim died is that a straight up dnf or do I count my pitiful 42 Sims that I had turned. If anyone was wondering she died after gavin richards started a fire and the game sent her running out into blazing firey sun death and wouldn't let me send her back into the house because fire.

Rachel

Ack :( . That stinks, Rachel. Yeah, you definitely get the 42 to count. Gotcha covered.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on February 23, 2020, 03:08:07 PM
Sorry to hear that, Ratchie, soon after reading that, a fire started on the house of a group of sims that Erich Von Carstein was visiting, but he got around the back and put it out, but couldn't find his target. :P
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: furbyqueen on February 23, 2020, 07:18:08 PM
Lola Haute got 121 sims before hitting the end of the alphabet an hour before the end time.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainy on February 23, 2020, 07:38:51 PM
Just created my vampire, this will be a fun grind. But it's my first challenge so I have a few questions:


Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: LenaLJ on February 24, 2020, 02:31:19 PM
Just created my vampire, this will be a fun grind. But it's my first challenge so I have a few questions:

  • How does editing non home lots work? If my Sim moves to lot A builds a house and I want to move to lot B, do I have to demolish lot A or can I just leave it?
  • Is intentionally killing sims allowed in this challenge?
  • Can my Sim get a money tree and can I move it in my household inventory to get more trees?



1. You can leave the lot behind like you want, bulldozed or not.
2 and 3. Nothing in the rules for this challenge prevents you from those things.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: JocyMc on February 25, 2020, 07:16:22 PM
Veronica Solano turned 114 townies. 
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainy on February 26, 2020, 01:35:13 PM

1. You can leave the lot behind like you want, bulldozed or not.
2 and 3. Nothing in the rules for this challenge prevents you from those things.

Thanks, my current strategy is really time intensive, hopefully this will make things more efficient.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on February 26, 2020, 02:02:14 PM
Hi @Rainy - welcome to the forum. I read that you are a Starcraft enthusiast. You could probably tell by my Profile avatar I am big fanboy of Blizzard's Diablo III. :)

Good luck in the challenges this year.
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Post by: Rainy on February 26, 2020, 03:11:08 PM
@Metropolis Man Thanks! I played Diablo III a few years ago, fun game, never played the other ones though.
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Post by: Ginj on February 27, 2020, 12:39:12 AM
Grand total of Sims turned:  129
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Post by: trybat on February 27, 2020, 11:33:17 AM
So my vampire, Greyson Burks, turned 145 sims - I didn't realize how many townies you could meet in Strangerville (which I ended up playing through because Greyson was infected from drinking infected plasma LOL)
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Post by: Vesper on February 27, 2020, 04:58:53 PM
only just realised this is a two-week challenge not the usual three weeks. What a 'nana
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on February 28, 2020, 03:53:53 AM
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Posted by: Vesper« on: February 27, 2020, 04:58:53 PM »only just realised this is a two-week challenge not the usual three weeks. What a 'nana

Huh, I didn't notice it was only two weeks long, it's a good thing that Morrigan is still on her first week, I wonder why the Challenge Team decided on only two weeks for this? ???
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Post by: Vesper on February 28, 2020, 04:19:09 AM
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Posted by: Vesper« on: February 27, 2020, 04:58:53 PM »only just realised this is a two-week challenge not the usual three weeks. What a 'nana

Huh, I didn't notice it was only two weeks long, it's a good thing that Morrigan is still on her first week, I wonder why the Challenge Team decided on only two weeks for this? ???

glad I wasn't the only one at least. I'm on Saturday of week two and am only at L haha
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Post by: Metropolis Man on February 28, 2020, 06:16:52 AM
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Posted by: Vesper« on: February 27, 2020, 04:58:53 PM »only just realised this is a two-week challenge not the usual three weeks. What a 'nana

Huh, I didn't notice it was only two weeks long, it's a good thing that Morrigan is still on her first week, I wonder why the Challenge Team decided on only two weeks for this? ???

Because it falls into the category of doing something over and over...like our painting events of the past.
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Post by: Deklitch on February 28, 2020, 04:04:16 PM
Huh, I didn't notice it was only two weeks long, it's a good thing that Morrigan is still on her first week, I wonder why the Challenge Team decided on only two weeks for this? ???

@Rainbow Dash because if it were three weeks long, we'd all be turning (wait for it) ... batty! Sorry Metro, I couldn't resist the bad pun.
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Post by: Ginj on February 28, 2020, 09:47:40 PM
So, if we were to conflate this challenge with the next one, would we be pancake turners?

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Post by: Metropolis Man on February 29, 2020, 07:25:19 AM
So, if we were to conflate this challenge with the next one, would we be pancake turners?



*groans* :) The puns from you guys lately. Absolutely terrible. I have one thing to say about Marian's upcoming Pancake challenge...batter up!
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Post by: oshizu on February 29, 2020, 02:05:57 PM
So, if we were to conflate this challenge with the next one, would we be pancake turners?

LOL, @Ginj !  hahahaha
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on March 01, 2020, 02:12:06 AM
oh dear ... an old dear who was part of his group contacted my vampire to complain about him drinking from sims without permission. He started a gathering and drank deeply from her ... as much as to say "thanks for your feedback, I disagree with you, but thanks for it, anyway."

Also, he asked someone if he could drink from them, they said no way, keep those fangs away from my neck, he drank deeply from them anyway :D

Yes, I'm having totally too much fun with this.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 01, 2020, 03:12:54 AM
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Posted by: Metropolis Man« on: February 28, 2020, 06:16:52 AM »Quote from: Rainbow Dash on February 28, 2020, 03:53:53 AM
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Posted by: Vesper« on: February 27, 2020, 04:58:53 PM »only just realised this is a two-week challenge not the usual three weeks. What a 'nana

Huh, I didn't notice it was only two weeks long, it's a good thing that Morrigan is still on her first week, I wonder why the Challenge Team decided on only two weeks for this? ???

Because it falls into the category of doing something over and over...like our painting events of the past.

I guess when you put it like that, it makes sense, it's been a while since we had to do something over and over in a challenge. I'm not sure I know what painting events you are referring to there @Metropolis Man, I don't think I ever played in those, I think they may have been before I starting doing Tournament Challenges regularly. :-\
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 01, 2020, 03:26:00 AM
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Posted by: Metropolis Man« on: February 29, 2020, 07:25:19 AM »Quote from: Ginj on February 28, 2020, 09:47:40 PM
So, if we were to conflate this challenge with the next one, would we be pancake turners?


*groans* :) The puns from you guys lately. Absolutely terrible. I have one thing to say about Marian's upcoming Pancake challenge...batter up!

No need to flip out @Metropolis Man, when this Vampire Challenge is over you can relax with a nice cup of coffee, decoffinated if you're into that and a bite to eat. Pancakes anybody? Morrigan likes Pancakes, she thinks they are quite tasty.

Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Nikitachi on March 01, 2020, 09:17:13 AM
Done with a score of 179.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on March 01, 2020, 02:13:01 PM
Jeanette Voerman turned 171 townies.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: oshizu on March 01, 2020, 03:21:44 PM
*groans* :) The puns from you guys lately. Absolutely terrible. I have one thing to say about Marian's upcoming Pancake challenge...batter up!

I'm only here for the puns! Thanks, folks!
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: mismck on March 01, 2020, 03:32:49 PM
Fanny Fangs feels fantastic! She turned 147 unsuspecting Sims into her own private army.
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Post by: Metropolis Man on March 01, 2020, 07:44:07 PM
Great scores from some heavy hitters. Who's necks on the list?
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Post by: Deklitch on March 01, 2020, 10:39:25 PM
I can tell you one thing @Metropolis Man me sucking at Sims 4 is coming in handy for once
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Post by: lizzi6692 on March 01, 2020, 11:31:38 PM
After what felt like the longest 2 sim weeks I've ever played, I finished with a score of 128.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 02, 2020, 06:11:58 AM
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Posted by: Deklitch« on: March 01, 2020, 02:12:06 AM »oh dear ... an old dear who was part of his group contacted my vampire to complain about him drinking from sims without permission. He started a gathering and drank deeply from her ... as much as to say "thanks for your feedback, I disagree with you, but thanks for it, anyway."

Also, he asked someone if he could drink from them, they said no way, keep those fangs away from my neck, he drank deeply from them anyway :D

Yes, I'm having totally too much fun with this.

Lol, I love it @Deklitch! :D Morrigan wouldn't be so kind, she never asks for permission, it's not her style. I'm also having way too much fun with this challenge, Morrigan has been getting up to all kinds of shennanigans and then there was the time where she was turning a Celebrity and Sims were cheering her on and passing out all over the place, it was really quite fun to watch. :P
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on March 04, 2020, 07:20:25 AM
The first world ranking of the 2020 season will be posted Monday morning for those of you who have posted results in the first three events. This 3rd event finishes up Sunday night, so get those scores in soon. Good luck!
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Sruixan on March 04, 2020, 07:29:11 AM
Pfffffft, okay, fun question based on something that's just this minute happened - since we're counting score based on "a successful bite to turn", I can still count the poor sim who's only gone and died a mere two hours after Radu successfully bit them, right? I was hoping they'd be safe once they got off the lot, but they didn't make it out in time... most inconvenient, really...
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on March 04, 2020, 08:45:35 AM
Pfffffft, okay, fun question based on something that's just this minute happened - since we're counting score based on "a successful bite to turn", I can still count the poor sim who's only gone and died a mere two hours after Radu successfully bit them, right?

Yep, go ahead and count that one.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on March 04, 2020, 09:32:26 AM
I was hoping they'd be safe once they got off the lot, but they didn't make it out in time... most inconvenient, really...
what happened to this poor Sim?
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Sruixan on March 04, 2020, 10:30:14 AM
Yep, go ahead and count that one.
Yeah, I figured I could, but thanks for the confirmation!

what happened to this poor Sim?
Honestly, it wasn't as dramatic as I made it sound; I was, uh, racing against the clock, so to speak. This episode will definitely be explained in my post-challenge write-up...
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rick McKinley on March 04, 2020, 08:50:27 PM
MisMcK sucked me into playing this challenge. I recently bought the Sims4 and had no experience with vampires. The game drove me batty, but I was able to eighty six, 86.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainy on March 05, 2020, 06:44:35 AM
I just had the weirdest bug, I spotted a townie starting to leave the lot, teleported as bat and she turned into a different (male) townie, kept walking to the spawn point and despawned. Questioned my sanity for a second then thought maybe there are two spawn points and she just happened to despawn as a new townie spawned, but when I scrolled back to the middle of the lot she was standing there.

Has this happened to anyone here? I looked up and couldn't find anything.
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Post by: Rainy on March 05, 2020, 06:27:24 PM
146

I should have made a practice run, felt like 200+ might be possible
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Post by: thefaeriesgirl on March 06, 2020, 02:12:27 AM
I turned 26 sims into vampires!

Thanks for the challenge.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on March 06, 2020, 06:00:10 AM
I should have made a practice run, felt like 200+ might be possible

I'm certain we'll see a few scores above 200; lots of the best players submit their scores on the last day of the challenge
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Post by: Nikitachi on March 06, 2020, 08:00:48 AM
I should have made a practice run, felt like 200+ might be possible

I'm certain we'll see a few scores above 200; lots of the best players submit their scores on the last day of the challenge

Not sure about the others, but my game had been extremely laggy since maybe the second half of it. I guess it's due to the large amount of sims spawned and the game having to keep their data active in my vampire's friends list. Most actions took a couple sim hours instead of a few sim minutes. So yes, if someone is lucky enough to avoid the glitching, over 200 is easily doable.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on March 06, 2020, 08:39:04 AM
I had to end early due to Sims 4 crashing on me. (thankfully I kept a spreadsheet on my turned Sim offspring).

Erich Von Carstein ended up with 63 offspring and a bad toothache.

His dental specialist told him he needs to floss between meals. Dental Hygiene is important even for vampires, especially for vampires, it would appear.

What a fun challenge!

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Post by: Teresa on March 06, 2020, 08:43:00 AM
I think 200 is definitely doable.  I was running out of steam as I started the second week, and actually quit on either Tuesday or Wednesday.  I know I could have turned more if I had the staying power to finish out the last few days.
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Post by: Rainy on March 06, 2020, 10:28:31 AM
I finished tue 1am, it did test my endurance a lot and the lag and occasional freezes didn't make it any better, played the 2nd half in laptop mode with pretty low settings because I was worried the game would crash. Glitches weren't that bad though, biggest annoyance were a couple sims instantly disappearing after travelling with a group.
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Post by: Sruixan on March 06, 2020, 12:33:58 PM
Well, nobody can ever mistake Radu Cioban for a werewolf ever again - from librarian Aaradhya Srivastava to bar regular Wiki Hoapili, in two weeks he managed to turn 240 sims! Honestly, just because he's big and hairy, with pointy teeth and ears... and a fondess for plaid...

...but seriously, yikes! This was a taxing challenge, both for me and my computer! It wasn't so much the lag as the various ways things started breaking as the second week progressed:
(having been told it may be TMI but not having the time now to edit selectively I'm just gonna whack it in a spoiler real quick)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainy on March 06, 2020, 12:57:10 PM
Whoa that's impressive, excited how you did that and please give your poor pc a hug
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on March 06, 2020, 01:09:49 PM
Great score, Sruixan. Too much information given at this point -- at least in my opinion since the event is still live. Save it for the Monday morning wrap-up. ;)
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Post by: Deklitch on March 06, 2020, 03:03:46 PM
I had to end early due to Sims 4 crashing on me. (thankfully I kept a spreadsheet on my turned Sim offspring).

Erich Von Carstein ended up with 63 offspring and a bad toothache.

His dental specialist told him he needs to floss between bites to eat. Dental Hygiene is important even for vampires, especially for vampires, it would appear.

What a fun challenge!

Just making sure my score wasn't missed within the posts. :)
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Post by: Metropolis Man on March 06, 2020, 03:19:01 PM
Ack. So sorry, Dek. Gotcha covered.
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Post by: Deklitch on March 06, 2020, 05:12:28 PM
No problem Metro, I know you are probably still howling with laughter over all the puns about Vampires. :)
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Post by: Kirstie on March 06, 2020, 11:07:56 PM
I ran out of time and had to end this early.

But I've never played with Vampires in this version of the sims and it was fun to learn about them.

I know I'll be at the bottom, but I still wanted to post A score at least with 16 turned sims.

- Kirstie
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on March 07, 2020, 06:20:46 AM
Lestat de Lioncourt fared pretty well - 151 turned Sims. Truth be told, I almost never play vampires, so I did a little research and testing ahead of time which I never do these days. Very fun challenge.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 08, 2020, 05:40:48 AM
I took my time with this challenge for strategy reasons and also because I wanted to be as meticulous as possible, but I had to wrap this up as it's 10:40 pm on a Sunday night here and the pickings were getting very slim towards the end of the alphabet. Like most people I started lagging and getting glitches towards the end too.  :-\ I was hoping to break over 250 and while I didn't quite get there, I did manage to get very close.

Morrigan Van Helsing, the queen of darkness herself turned 244 Sims.

I must say, I'm quite proud of her and we both had a lot of fun doing this challenge while managing to not go batty, so fangs a lot Challenge Team for a fangtastic challenge. For now, I must retire to my coffin before I'm out for the count, I guess you could say I'm dead on my feet after this one! ;D
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Post by: Sruixan on March 08, 2020, 06:48:16 AM
Yay, I'm not alone in the 200+ club any more! Seriously, congrats on that (potentially winning!) score - sorry to hear you also had to battle with your game to get there, but it sounds like you turned it around!
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Post by: LenaLJ on March 08, 2020, 12:41:47 PM
So high numbers. Here i thought i could go for a win with 191 turned sims, but no, far from it, it seems.
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Post by: Elinoee on March 08, 2020, 02:07:01 PM
My vampire turned 179 sims.

Sruixan and Rainbow Dash,such great scores,wow!
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on March 08, 2020, 02:16:10 PM
Yay, I'm not alone in the 200+ club any more! Seriously, congrats on that (potentially winning!) score...

Yes, indeed...a great score posted from Rainbow. I will not work up the first World Ranking until tomorrow after I close this event. But, as it stands and assuming no one else comes into the top of this event you'll have 1 win under your belt. Rainbow will have 2 out of 3 events as wins, so that pretty much solidifies where she'll be. Lena and Nikitachi are consistently right behind you guys. We'll wait and see tomorrow. :) Ugh. I just wish more of the heavy hitters from years past would still be around. As a true fan of how awesome you guys are it would be great to see a bigger pool of talent at the top.
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Post by: ratchie on March 08, 2020, 03:21:35 PM
Waves from the bottom half of the board.

Rachel
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Post by: Nandarelle on March 08, 2020, 06:04:53 PM
Rosanna Calvierri, a fish-like alien who doesn't mind if you think she's a vampire, has worked hard to convert Sims into compatible mates for her children.
She managed to produce 210 brides and grooms.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on March 09, 2020, 12:00:39 AM
Joins @ratchie in the bottom half of the board, though in my case it is probably more like the bottom 20th 15th of the board. :D

Edit to Add, I looked at the members who had completed each challenge and guessed how many names were common to all three, it can't be more than 19, so I estimated 15 ... let's see :P
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on March 09, 2020, 12:06:24 AM
Yay, I'm not alone in the 200+ club any more! Seriously, congrats on that (potentially winning!) score...

Yes, indeed...a great score posted from Rainbow. I will not work up the first World Ranking until tomorrow after I close this event. But, as it stands and assuming no one else comes into the top of this event you'll have 1 win under your belt. Rainbow will have 2 out of 3 events as wins, so that pretty much solidifies where she'll be. Lena and Nikitachi are consistently right behind you guys. We'll wait and see tomorrow. :) Ugh. I just wish more of the heavy hitters from years past would still be around. As a true fan of how awesome you guys are it would be great to see a bigger pool of talent at the top.

I'm consistently putting in scores, bad scores, but still <G> You should give an award to the consistently worse player at these challenges, @Metropolis Man I might actually win something then ... and April 1 is coming up <G>
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Metropolis Man on March 09, 2020, 06:13:05 AM
This event is now closed. Congrats to Rainbow Dash for the win. Great job to all participants. Everyone is now free to discuss their strategies.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on March 09, 2020, 06:17:07 AM
Congrats Rainbow. It's fitting that the most vocal vamp fan turned the most.

My top tip is to read the rules carefully so you don't suddenly run out of time.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on March 09, 2020, 07:23:32 AM
My top tip is if you are like me and have Google Sheets alphabeticise your typing of people's names that you make sure it manages to put them in the correc torder, and not have two that are the wrong way around
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 09, 2020, 07:47:09 AM
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Posted by: Vesper« on: Today at 06:17:07 AM »Congrats Rainbow. It's fitting that the most vocal vamp fan turned the most.

My top tip is to read the rules carefully so you don't suddenly run out of time.

Thanks @Vesper and @Metropolis Man, Yeah I'm a huge fan of anything supernatural and yes that includes the tv show!  :D It's just gone midnight here but seeing as I'm not tired I guess I can do a quick strategy post.

The first couple of days of this challenge were spent setting up my strategy, Morrigan maxed Vampire Lore during the day which was an important part of my strategy btw, I'll get to that later and the first Vampire powers she took were Bat Form and Cast Hallucination. Those first two nights she took vacations in Granite Falls and Selvadorada and traveled to every community lot she could to spawn Sims and Cast Hallucination on them to gain Vampire XP quickly. I also bought her the Incredibly Friendly reward and introduced her to every NPC the game spawned so she could invite them over later.

She then took Occult Student and Child Of The Moon and maxed them out because both of them reduce the energy needed to use Vamperic powers and COTM makes needs decay slower meaning she could turn more Sims and waste less time tending to her needs.

Throughout the entire challenge I used the Wishing Well to wish for romance, I spawned half a dozen Sims this way and Morrigan was able to turn about four of them. She also hired services, Butlers, Maids Gardeners and  Pizza Delivery people mostly, fired them if they were too far down the alphabet or after they were turned and rehired more. Morrigan joined and quit every career with the Connections reward, she never made an offering to the Wishing Well as I was only looking for Overwhelmingly Positive or Overwhelmingly Negative results, she only went to work for the active careers to meet the Sims and then left.

As for the Vampire Lore skill, I made Morrigan max it so she could make Sunlight Reversal Cocktails to gain energy throughout the day and Dark Meditation topped it up at night, she used the umbrella for sun protection until she could make the drinks. Drinks were made using either the plants from her garden or seeds paid for by selling the career rewards or gained through the Vampire Council. She never once ran out of energy in the entire challenge.

Another reason I wanted to max the Vampire Lore skill was to cure Vampires so Morrigan could turn them again lol, she had a lot of fun beating up the other Vamps, it was great to watch! ;D

Other things I can think of is that Morrigan traveled around quite a bit, the 8 Bells Bar n Strangerville  was her favourite haunt as it constantly churns out Military Personnel and Scientists and they are always randomly generated so I got a lot of Sims that way. I played in Autumn to encourage cloudy weather. To turn Sims she mostly invited them out or over to her house, started a Club Gathering or paid them a visit.

I can post a list of her traits, rewards, vampire Powers and weaknesses etc if people want, traits weren't really important and she had all the vampire powers in the end anyway, except for Sunlight Resistance as that negates the Sunlight Reversal Cocktail. But I think that's everything I can think of for now.

Morrigan and I really approached this challenge like a bat out of hell and we both thought it was fangtastic and I can't wait to see what the necks one is! ;D

Edit: Ack, it's almost 1:am here ... this is why I prefer not to stay up late posting strategies ... stupid insomnia, lol. :o
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Nandarelle on March 09, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
Congratulations Rainbow Dash, on a well-deserved win.

My vampire was evil, cheerful and loved the outdoors, just to generally keep her happy.
I made an alphabetized list of all existing townies, and updated with all new Sims Rosanna met (and marvelled at the game's choice of names).
I took the first two days to just go to all different public places and meet as many new Sims as I could. Britechester and Strangerville were quite good about generating Sims.
She also spend a day in the active careers.
Like Rainbow Dash, I played in autumn for the cloudy weather. I made a custom holiday with Father Winter, just so I could meet him and later turn him too.

On the first Tueday, I started going down the list, while still keeping an eye out for new Sims.
Mostly, I could just pick them to travel together. Or, if they were living in a world, I would just visit their lot. There were a few Sims that refused to come along this way.
Clubs were useful for this. Sims will show up to a club meeting even if they are supposed to be at work.
Rosanna reached level 2 in a few skills, just so I could get my hands on e.g. Sims with fitness skill.

I didn't practice, so it was tricky to decide the balance between making the game generate Sims, and to get going and bite.
I think I got it pretty well, but I could have spent more time encouraging the game to generate more.
There were some obvious things I learned during this challenge, such as turning in the sun does not always work, even with sunlight resistance.
And I'm still not sure how to cure a Sim from vampirism... I can make the potion sure, but how do you get it to your target? (I'm sure it's really obvious.)

I did use service SIm, but I could have used those more. (Rosanna did order some delicious pizza delivery boy.)
And it never occured to me to use the Wishing Well.

Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: SoulGal7 on March 09, 2020, 05:52:42 PM
Congrats to everyone and Rainbow Dash for the win! Although I don't have the vampire pack, it was interesting to read about strategies, etc,. in this challenge.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on March 09, 2020, 06:39:39 PM
I was pretty unlucky with service sims. The nanny was also the entertainer (yes singular) but three pizza people were generated. But Britechester and Strangerville were goldmines as others have noted. Restaurants also generated about five or six Sims each which surprised me.

Some of my favourite generated names: Charity Funk, Alma Ponce, Wren Beach, Landen Larson, Gary Shook
There were four Sims called Tetsu, two barmen, a librarian, and a student.

Earliest alphabetically was paparazzi Aadhya Gupta, bit her as soon as we met as was sure there'd be nobody before her. Latest was scientist Zuri Thacker, didn't get anywhere near Z though.

This challenge has certainly made me want to play with vampires more.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: lizzi6692 on March 09, 2020, 08:06:43 PM
I turned some random service sims that turned up in the world(like bartenders), but it never even occurred to me to use random services so the game would generate more. I did make use of Strangerville about halfway through the challenge because I realized that my list of sims was way too short. The only real "strategy" I had was to use reward points to buy the Incredibly Friendly trait so that I could quickly meet sims and offer to turn them and have it be successful. I only used the "turn into vampire" from the vampire social section on famous sims since even if "attempt introduction" worked, the game doesn't consider that a friendly introduction. I'm honestly not sure if that was a smart choice or not time-wise, but I did notice that sometimes the "turn into vampire" failed the first time, whereas "offer to turn" never did other than a couple times when I was glitching because I hadn't rebooted in a while.

The first sim I turned was Abbey Rossi and the last sim I turned was Victor Feng(I ran out of time before I got to Z).
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Sruixan on March 09, 2020, 08:49:10 PM
Congratulations to Rainbow Dash once again! Your enthusiasm for the supernatural is so evident in your write-up, so it's no wonder you're so proficient with vampires...

The very first strategy I came up with was the one I eventually used for the bulk of the turning - using Fan Meet And Greet events to bring sims to Radu. It seems like, when your sim becomes a two-star celebrity for the first time, every sim they've been properly introduced themselves to becomes a fan of theirs. So many sims were involved that I can't say this with complete certainty, and it differed slightly in practice to the proper run; in practice, some of the criminals at the police station became fans, but in the real run they didn't, and neither did George Cahill for some utterly unknowable reason. Most importantly, Selvadoradans and folks from Granite Falls can and will become fans, making them actually accessible! Admittedly, I didn't end up going to Granite Falls 'cause it didn't seem super efficient in practice, whereas Selvadorada spat out 22 sims in under half a day. But yeah, Radu spent six-and-a-bit days running round meeting as many sims as possible with a streaming drone in tow (well, I say "a" - I did lose the first one at some point...), then had another couple where he hosted meet-and-greets at night and kept meeting sims during the day before finally switching to constant events when I figured I had a large enough pool. Oh, and "Offer To Turn" absolutely counts as socialisation for the main goal, so for the first few events when I still needed the money I was racking up gold medal after gold medal - as time passed, though, I gave that up and just force-turned everyone in attendance...

I've already confessed to being a spreadsheet fiend in the previous challenge, so it should come as no surprise that I leaned heavily on one here - like Nandarelle, I started with a list of all the potential townies, and in practice I assembled a separate list of all the roles I could think of that the game would be forced to fill, with timings where applicable. For instance, each venue with a bar will have three mixologists, working in shifts from 6am-2pm, 2pm-10pm and 10pm-6am; if I could arrange for Radu's visit to a venue to overlap with one of those change-over times, then I could snag two sims instead of one! Yep, I micromanaged that thoroughly... but it gets worse. I checked that Radu was allowed to move lots for a reason, after all. He started in San Myshuno (19 Culpepper House), forcing the game to spawn a landlord but also giving him a slightly better chance of meeting any buskers/human statues/fashion victims/raccoons, before moving to Strangerville (Slip 42) in order to get the (un)Welcome Wagon to spawn an extra neighbour and two "secret agents"... who immediately lose their special role once they've left the lot, but hey. Finally, he planted roots at Pebble Burrow in Oasis Springs - it's a cheap lot in a compact neighbourhood that's good for walk-bys, partygoers spawn nice and close to it, and it gets gardeners and fisherfolk (though I saw none of the latter, actually).

I don't have Realm Of Magic or Discover University, so I knew I was down a couple of townies - I hadn't actually thought about how many sims would spawn in Britechester just to fill roles, but I'm well aware of how it happens in Strangerville. That was part of the reason I wanted to have Radu live there for a while, in fact, and I milked it for all I could. Beyond that, Radu spent a day as a detective and a day as an actor (no other active careers seemed worthwhile to me), hit up all the stores on Magnolia Promenade and the Brindleton Pawspital (their staff all spawn/come to work 24-7, though new "pet owner" sims don't start showing until 6am so I only got one), snagged every librarian and gym trainer (they both have two shifts!), a whole raft of mixologists and bar regulars (the game says bar regulars work 4pm-8pm, but that's untrue - they seem to dip in and out between 4pm and a touch past midnight), and fewer service sims than I would have liked (the game kept throwing the same ones back at me, though I did manage two mail carriers, two pizza delivery specialists and two butlers, the latter as a result of having turned the first butler and the game her deciding that excused her from her duties).

My question about non-critical EA lots was based on wanting spas, bowling alleys and restaurants, but I only visited one of each in the real run as I all found them to be problematic. Spas are proper townie sponges, but (a) in practice they started taking premades out of their careers rather than generating new sims, and who here honestly wants a foot massage from Geoffrey Landgraab? & (b) sims assigned spa jobs don't seem to be taken out of the pool of unemployed townies until you've had the chance to "Ask About Career" and thus lock their employment in place - this is not ideal in an environment where sims are very easily distracted! Restaurants had sort of the opposite problem, in that their staff were too focused on their jobs to pay Radu any proper heed, and bowling alleys... well, the Oasis Springs Dust Bowl and I did not get on, so I didn't fancy trying my luck with Bowl More...

Uh, what else? I did use clubs like Nandarelle on occasion. I had an A-Club for folks Radu met whose names were at the beginning of the alphabet, a B-Club for the butler, boyfriend and blood plasma supply, and a C-Club with a variable filter that was mostly used to drag celebrities to him - I did consider using the skill filter (especially when I just couldn't track down Miko Ojo...) but there was never really the time to do any more than the most necessary skilling. Oh, that's a point - along with being Outgoing (so much time spent talking to (mostly new) people!) and an Insider (constant club gatherings!), Radu was also a Dance Machine, because you can absolutely Disco Nap in a coffin. I did a little experimentation with the new "bed" upgrades and found it made no statistically significant difference to the energy regeneration rate of the top-tier coffin... which makes sense, given that it's the best already, so no Handiness for Radu. No painting either, 'cause it turned out the streaming drone was entirely sufficient for Radu's fame needs... bar the uploading of a couple of selfies right at the end, I'll admit, but like had I not lost the drone I would have definitely been on schedule!

(oh yeah, the boyfriend - it was an utterly perfunctory relationship. In the first week, Radu hit up The Shrieking Llama partly for the Good Timers gathering but mainly for Aliens Night - though they can't be turned, aliens can be drunk from! The ones generated specifically for the bar night show up sans disguise, but those already generated (there's always at least one) are slightly harder to spot... unless you make them glow. And hey, Very Flirty's a pretty quick Very emotion to achieve, and I couldn't say no to the aspiration points and moodlets. So, when I got suspicious of Hank Langford's multicolour dreads...)

Last, but by no means least, the evening of Monday, Week 2. I called in a meet-and-greet that saw Radu turn the sims from Clement Frost (I started in Winter for a reason!) to Dina Caliente. In the middle of that range lies Dennis Kim, who was dutifully turned between Darling Walsh and restaurant hostess Desiree Guerra. I wrapped up the event at about 2am, just as Radu started turning Dina, having unlocked all the doors of Radu's castle house a few minutes beforehand to ensure that everyone else could exit swiftly. Technically, this is what happened - after all, "exit swiftly" is just what Dennis Kim did:

(https://i.imgur.com/tO2jWuF.png)

I should have mentioned - Radu developed a tendency to just not change out of outfits. After his spa break, he kept that robe on for almost three days. I, ahem, used this to great effect when I remembered to start scheduling my own holidays so that people wouldn't stop trying to go to work/school (an idea shamelessly stolen from Vesper's strategy in the last challenge) and was thus able to have him turn folks whilst wearing various ridiculous costumes. As if I really needed to make things even more absurd than they already were... anyway, that's what prompted me to ask that question. Jacques Villareal ened up dying shortly after being turned too, but at least he had the decency to snuff it after he'd left the neighbourhood...
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 10, 2020, 06:15:23 AM
I'm just here adding a few extras while I can still remember them lol.

I too made a list of all the pre-made townies in alphabetical order and also one for any NPCS that I could possible spawn such as service Sims and like Sruixan I hit up bars, libraries, gyms, any community lot I could think of to spawn trainers, bar tenders etc. I also wrote down the name of every Sim the game generated and had Morrigan introduce herself to them. In fact my strategy was very similar to hers and Nandarelle's in many ways.

I have all the packs but I avoided travelling to the Magic Realm or bars on Alien Nights as I didn't want Sims that Morrigan couldn't turn clogging up my game. Morrigan never slept or napped, she was powered by the sun during the day thanks to Sunlight Resistance Cocktails and used Dark Meditation at night, having maxed out Child Of The Moon and maxed Occult Student meant she used very little energy turning Sims anyway. I never let my Sims sleep in challenges, it's a waste of time. :P

I also made a couple of custom holidays to get Father Winter and the Flower Bunny to show up, Morrigan also turned the Hermit and a Park Ranger as well. I didn't have much luck with most of service Sims except Butlers, Morrigan turned six Butlers but only couple of each of the other Service Sims, except for maids which never bothered to show up. Most of the Sim she turned came from Selvadorada, Strangerville, Butlers, Wishing Well or pre-made townies. Celebrities were a pain in the neck, always turning up when I didn't need them forcing me to hunt them down when it was their turn, luckily festivals are a celebrity magnet.

If you are lucky enough to spawn a romantic interest for your Sim via the Wishing Well (I got six but could only turn four) you have to break up with them to be able to wish for romance again. Morrigan is mean so she enjoys breaking up with lovers and slaying Vampires. (She cured and then turned four Vampires). :P

Morrigan never bothered to Ask Permission To Drink nor did she Offer To Turn, she just went straight in for the kill, so to speak, she's like me, not exactly subtle lol.

I just thought I'd add a little more after seeing that a couple of other players had strategies similar to mine. :)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Sruixan on March 10, 2020, 07:27:55 AM
she was powered by the sun during the day thanks to Sunlight Resistance Cocktails

...so, despite what my score might suggest, I'm not actually that familiar with the vampire mechanics... but I didn't think the Sunlight Reversal Cocktail was an actual reversal? Does it actualy provide a net gain of vampire energy when you spent its moodlet's duration out in the sun? If so, then man did I miss out...

To be fair, Radu only napped four times during the challenge, and only two of those naps lasted the full time; he bought Occult Master early on day two and had Master Of Darkness by day four, so for the most part it was just careful energy management in the vein of what you've already described. If I hadn't started turning relatively late I could probably have got away with fewer, but I wanted as large a list of potential turnees as possible to give me plenty of padding.

Radu met Father Winter and the Flower Bunny too, but the latter refused to return for turning. Celebrities were made significantly easier by him being one himself, thus allowing me to use fame as a club entry requirement to a club that held one-on-one gatherings whenever needed - this also meant I got two of the three celebrities the game generated as a result of visiting Orchid A Go Go, with the missing one sadly having a name that started with A. From reading your strategy, it sounds like I could have tried a heck of a lot harder with service sims (six butlers! six!) and as for the wishing well... well, it never crossed my mind! Since I got that stuff pack together with a bunch of others I don't think I've ever really used the well - maybe it's something I need to investigate in order to up my game!
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 10, 2020, 08:02:56 AM
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Posted by: Sruixan« on: Today at 07:27:55 AM » Quote from: Rainbow Dash on Today at 06:15:23 AM
she was powered by the sun during the day thanks to Sunlight Resistance Cocktails

...so, despite what my score might suggest, I'm not actually that familiar with the vampire mechanics... but I didn't think the Sunlight Reversal Cocktail was an actual reversal? Does it actualy provide a net gain of vampire energy when you spent its moodlet's duration out in the sun? If so, then man did I miss out...

That's exactly what it does, basically as long as the moodlet is active your Vampire will regain energy in the sun after drinking the cocktail. It doesn't work if your Vampire has Sun Resistance but I'm pretty sure that has to be maxed for it not to work I just avoided taking that power altogether and let Morrigan use an umbrella until she could mix the drink. (It requires level 11 of the Vampire Lore skill, it's the main reason why I made Morrigan gain that skill). It also won't work on cloudy days but given the weather in every world is different that wasn't a problem, I often made Morrigan wait outside a bar or a celebrity hotspot to soak up the sun and recharge her batteries while waiting for Sims to show up.

Butlers were the only service sims I had a decent amount of luck with, I only managed to turn a few of the other types, including a Repair Person (Forgot to mention them) and the Maids kept refusing to turn up so I gave up on them. >:(

The Wishing Well is OP for sure but it's a very much 'Use at your own peril' object, Carl has a written a guide on it, I've used it loads in challenges along with many of the players here but I would suggest experimenting with it first. :)

Ps: Just don't forget to keep an eye on the moodlet timer or your Vamp will be a crispy critter if you forget about it but that's what umbrellas and Bat Form are good for. (Quick getaways regarding the latter). ;)
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Vesper on March 10, 2020, 09:03:58 AM
this shows again how playing ability is as important as strategy. I didn't think to cure and re-turn pre-existing vampires but otherwise had a similar strategy. Perhaps because much of my vampire knowledge/ strategy came from the 2018 challenge Sink Your Teeth into the New Year won by, of course, Rainbow Dash. I'm just not as good at actually playing the game as the top scorers, but the tournament is a great learning experience as well as super fun.

I disabled realm of magic because I suspected most of the added NPCs would be spellcasters and ineligable for turning, was this correct? I haven't actually played with it yet.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: furbyqueen on March 10, 2020, 11:34:29 AM
This made me love vampires. Not only was my sim super cool, she was so fun to play with and build a personality for.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Deklitch on March 10, 2020, 06:22:22 PM
@Vesper yes, you are correct re the spellcasters. which I discovered multiple times (I kept on forgetting that they couldn't be turned)

Two questions
1) Do the reward traits/objects you get from the reward store work for vampire things - I know that the moodlet potion doesn't work for thirst, but does something like the 'never hungry' ones work?

2) How do you get people out of your club when you no longer need them?
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: lizzi6692 on March 10, 2020, 08:53:25 PM
No, the need traits for sleep and hunger don’t work on vampires.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 11, 2020, 04:37:39 AM
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Posted by: Deklitch« on: March 10, 2020, 06:22:22 PM »@Vesper yes, you are correct re the spellcasters. which I discovered multiple times (I kept on forgetting that they couldn't be turned)

Two questions
1) Do the reward traits/objects you get from the reward store work for vampire things - I know that the moodlet potion doesn't work for thirst, but does something like the 'never hungry' ones work?

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Posted by: lizzi6692« on: March 10, 2020, 08:53:25 PM »No, the need traits for sleep and hunger don’t work on vampires.

Actually this was one of the first things I tested in my practice run, I gave Morrigan the Hardly Hungry and Seldom Sleepy rewards traits and let her run around for a while. Her thirst gradually went down over time but her energy bar didn't budge at all, she wasn't using any powers during this test run, in fact I don't think she had any but Seldom Sleepy seems to be the only needs based reward that seemed to work, i may need to test this more. :-\ Not that it matters as I didn't bother with either of those rewards in my scoring run seeing as Sunlight Reversal Cocktail was so much better for energy and she eventually got the Vamperic Powers that take care of fun, social and hygiene in the end. (Which were pretty much ignored until that point).

In case anyone is wondering, Rally The Troops does not work on Vampires, the needs potions do, just not the Moodlet Solvers.

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2) How do you get people out of your club when you no longer need them?

When talking to a club member, click on the Clubs socialization menu, there should be an option there to kick them out of your club.

As for Spellcasters, I'm pretty sure that only going to the Magic Realm prompts the game to spawn them, hence why I stayed out of there, I never saw any Spellcaster aside from the pre-made ones, they were good for snacking on however. :D
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Teresa on March 11, 2020, 06:20:24 AM
You can also remove members of a club by going into club management and deleting them.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: lizzi6692 on March 11, 2020, 10:38:52 AM

Actually this was one of the first things I tested in my practice run, I gave Morrigan the Hardly Hungry and Seldom Sleepy rewards traits and let her run around for a while. Her thirst gradually went down over time but her energy bar didn't budge at all, she wasn't using any powers during this test run,

If she wasn't using her powers or outside in the sun, there would be no reason for her energy bar to go down. Vampire energy isn't like the regular sleep need, you only lose it if you actively do something to expend it.
Title: Re: Totally Turning the Townies...Alphabetically
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 14, 2020, 01:09:49 AM
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Posted by: lizzi6692« on: March 11, 2020, 10:38:52 AM »If she wasn't using her powers or outside in the sun, there would be no reason for her energy bar to go down. Vampire energy isn't like the regular sleep need, you only lose it if you actively do something to expend it.

In practice I forgot about this but I did notice that Morrigan's power only went down when she was using her powers in my scoring game but because I wasn't using any of the needs reward traits in my scoring file I forgot to mention it but you are indeed correct. :)